Most Recent Changes in Earth's Magnetic Field; Sources Analyzed

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The discussion centers around the recent changes in Earth's magnetic field as revealed by data from ESA's Swarm satellite constellation. Participants explore the implications of these changes, including potential impacts on technology and society, while also addressing the scientific understanding of the magnetic field's behavior and the sources of these changes.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the weakening of Earth's magnetic field, particularly over the Western Hemisphere, while noting strengthening in other regions like the southern Indian Ocean.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential effects of magnetic field changes on power grids and technology, with references to increased risks of disruptions.
  • There are discussions about historical events, such as the Carrington event, and their implications for modern technology, with some skepticism about exaggerated claims of catastrophic outcomes.
  • Participants express differing views on the likelihood and impact of future coronal mass ejections (CMEs) hitting Earth, with estimates of a 12% chance over the next decade mentioned.
  • Some participants propose that the protective magnetic field's decline in North America is occurring at an accelerated rate, which raises questions about the underlying causes.
  • There is a suggestion that the magnetic field 'flip' will not occur uniformly across the globe and may take place over a long timescale, potentially up to 1,000 years.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of concerns and skepticism regarding the implications of changes in the magnetic field. There is no clear consensus on the severity of potential impacts or the likelihood of catastrophic events, indicating ongoing debate and differing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the magnetic field's behavior and its effects on technology depend on various assumptions and interpretations of the data. The discussion reflects a range of uncertainties regarding the future behavior of the magnetic field and its implications.

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140620115751.htm
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Observing_the_Earth/Swarm/Swarm_reveals_Earth_s_changing_magnetism

The first set of high-resolution results from ESA's three-satellite Swarm constellation reveals the most recent changes in the magnetic field that protects our planet.

Launched in November 2013, Swarm is providing unprecedented insights into the complex workings of Earth's magnetic field, which safeguards us from the bombarding cosmic radiation and charged particles.

Measurements made over the past six months confirm the general trend of the field's weakening, with the most dramatic declines over the Western Hemisphere.

But in other areas, such as the southern Indian Ocean, the magnetic field has strengthened since January.

The latest measurements also confirm the movement of magnetic North towards Siberia.

These changes are based on the magnetic signals stemming from Earth's core. Over the coming months, scientists will analyse the data to unravel the magnetic contributions from other sources, namely the mantle, crust, oceans, ionosphere and magnetosphere.
 
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So not only will people be affected by changing climates, but also magnetic fields? Life is going to get real tough for some people.
 
Perhaps the title should read:

"Most Recent Changes in Earth's Magnetic Field; Sources to be[\b] Analyzed."
 
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"A major solar eruptive event in July 2012," describes how a powerful coronal mass ejection (CME) tore through Earth orbit on July 23, 2012. Fortunately Earth wasn't there. Instead, the storm cloud hit the STEREO-A spacecraft .

it seems not to have hurt the spacecraft . i remain skeptical about the doomsayers.
 
Thanks Evo - that's a good article.

By the way, that event — known as the Carrington event — did not vaporize any people, animals or planets, but it did do damage to telegraph lines and create some epic northern lights as far south as Tahiti.

Telegraphy back then was single wire and i don't think they had lightning protection, perhaps some history buff knows better.

I have Missouri heritage - "show me".
 
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it seems not to have hurt the spacecraft . i remain skeptical about the doomsayers.

I have been wondering about that. Since the spacecraft is there to study the sun, it may be packed full of tinfoil hats to protect it.:confused:
 
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Yeah, I read that article myself a day or two before it was posted here
I couldn't believe the totally overhyped comments about the "earth being destroyed" blah, blah, blah
there is so much garbage media reporting out there

By the way, that event — known as the Carrington event — did not vaporize any people, animals or planets, but it did do damage to telegraph lines and create some epic northern lights as far south as Tahiti.
no, that's more likely to be the "southern lights" Aurora Australis reaching north to Tahiti

Much more likely than the nthrn aurora going south of the equator :wink:Dave
 
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Evo said:
But seriously, we are so dependent on electronics that we need to try to figure out a contingency plan on a large scale, although the chance of a major CME hitting Earth is only estimated at 12% according to the NASA article.

That would be 12% over the next 10 years, based on an extrapolation of the previous 50 years. But according to the OP, the protective magnetic field over North America is declining at a rate 10 times faster than previously. This for unknown reasons which the ESA Swarm effort is attempting to investigate.

But I do agree it's easy and certainly jolly good fun to blow this all off with talk of doomsayers and tinfoil hats. Particularly since there's nothing that can be done about it short of making expensive preparations for something that may never happen - or may happen over some other continent and not here. A contingency plan on a large scale might consist of repatriating the manufacture and stockpiling of large transformers to North America, or even reducing our reliance on continental length high tension power lines so vulnerable to ground currents. But this runs counter to current economic and industrial policy.

Personally - as opposed to the collective large scale - I'm more interested in the science involved than the economics, engineering or social questions. I will be making absolutely no preparations to lay in food or batteries at my home or fishing cabin, relying instead on my wine cellar. But I will follow developments from ESA Swarm for their academic interest. :smile:
 
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Dotini, the field is strengthening elsewhere. I have posted about this before and not up to posting about it again. The 'flip' when it comes, some time in the next 1,000 years, will not be everywhere at once. So settle down
 

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