Most thorough physics refresher?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for physics textbooks suitable for someone looking to refresh their knowledge in physics after a significant break from academics. Participants explore various resources, approaches to learning, and the importance of foundational understanding in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the best textbook for physics, specifically looking for one that includes numerous problems and guidance.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of the individual's physics background, suggesting that recommendations will vary based on prior experience.
  • A participant mentions their five years of experience with undergraduate courses but expresses difficulty recalling information after a five-year hiatus from academics.
  • Some participants argue that without mastering elementary problems, tackling more complex topics may be unrealistic.
  • Alonso and Finn's "Fundamental University Physics" is suggested as a resource, noted for its brief yet well-written explanations and challenging exercises.
  • There is a discussion about the purpose of studying physics, with one participant highlighting the difference between learning for personal interest versus academic or professional requirements.
  • Another participant cautions that the most commonly used textbooks may not necessarily be the best, suggesting that some older texts like Alonso and Finn have valuable content despite not being widely used anymore.
  • Several links to calculus books are shared, with varying opinions on their usefulness for understanding physics problems.
  • A later reply critiques the rationale behind multiple editions of textbooks, suggesting that they may be more about market competition than educational improvement.

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Participants express differing opinions on the best resources for learning physics, with no consensus on a single textbook or approach. There is also disagreement regarding the effectiveness of commonly used textbooks versus older, less popular ones.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their recommendations based on individual backgrounds and goals, as well as the potential challenges in transitioning from elementary to more advanced physics topics.

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Hi, new here.
what textbook would be best to use? 11th edition College Physics? is there any books that have a lot of questions and problems and they walk you through it? what would be the best way to train to solve these physics problems in a short amount of time off the top of your head?
 
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Depends, what is your physics background? If you have a PhD in physics who has taken a year off, the answer will be different than if you are a middle school student who wants to learn more.
 
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Dishsoap said:
Depends, what is your physics background? If you have a PhD in physics who has taken a year off, the answer will be different than if you are a middle school student who wants to learn more.
about five years experience with all the undergrad lower division courses at non-university. then about five years no academics, memory faded.
original textbooks look familiar like newspaper but problems still hard to solve. I've copied a lot of the sections into my own words and going through a lot of the problems, but I cannot recall any of it. i know there are a lot of free mock classes dedicated to making ordinary online users physics literate.
I am looking for a book that is geared towards the newest physics curriculum of educating people, but I know just a Calculus based physics book does not cover the specifics with fields and deeper math approaches for everything.
 
If you can't do the elementary problems, you will not be able to do something with "deeper math approaches to everything". If afraid you are asking for something that doesn't exist to enable you to do something impossible.
 
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If you remember calculus, you maybe try Alonso and Finn: Fundamental University Physics. Topic explanations are brief, but well written. Exercises can be challenging. Almost everything is derived.

Going through the 3 book series will allow you to jump to upper division books with no problems.

What you are asking for is unrealistic. You may need to approach physics as if it was your first time.
 
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Anonymous User said:
Hi, new here.
what textbook would be best to use? 11th edition College Physics? is there any books that have a lot of questions and problems and they walk you through it? what would be the best way to train to solve these physics problems in a short amount of time off the top of your head?

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about five years experience with all the undergrad lower division courses at non-university. then about five years no academics, memory faded.
original textbooks look familiar like newspaper but problems still hard to solve. I've copied a lot of the sections into my own words and going through a lot of the problems, but I cannot recall any of it. i know there are a lot of free mock classes dedicated to making ordinary online users physics literate.
I am looking for a book that is geared towards the newest physics curriculum of educating people, but I know just a Calculus based physics book does not cover the specifics with fields and deeper math approaches for everything.

But what are you doing all of this for? There is a different approach if you are simply doing this for fun and for your own knowledge, versus doing this because you wish to be up to speed for some academic or employment purpose. The former doesn't require you to be properly prepared, whereas the latter does and will require us knowing the exact target that you are shooting for.

Zz.
 
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Thanks for the input. I think I am looking for the physics book that is being distributed and taught by the most schools currently. I hope this math book will be good to help with first impression pitfalls when looking at a physics problem. there is the science and building a math function out of a word problem scenario.
 
Anonymous User said:
Thanks for the input. I think I am looking for the physics book that is being distributed and taught by the most schools currently. I hope this math book will be good to help with first impression pitfalls when looking at a physics problem. there is the science and building a math function out of a word problem scenario.

Remember, most used does not usually mean the best.
Alonso and Finn are really good books that are not used anymore. I believe, its mostly do to students poor math background.
Really neat derivation. Everything is build from scratch.

If you want a decent calculus book...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMPZBGA/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Very good book.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/053439339X/?tag=pfamazon01-20
This book is ok. Use it for problems... I would read the explanations in Thomas, then do problems in stewart.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000L3UO2A/?tag=pfamazon01-20
My favorite calculus book. A forgotten gem. Great balance between theory and applied. Really neat coverage of topics. Explains the Nested Interval Postulate, and how it is equivalent to some other mathematical statements.

This book may be a little hard, but you will become good at the application of calculus to physics problems.
 
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11 editions? If they can't get it right by the second edition, they should just give up.

There aren't 11 editions because of constant advances in pedagogy or great new discoveries in freshman physics, there are 11 editions to reduce competition from used book sales. Your original textbooks are just fine.
 

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