Motion: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos A Scientist

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The discussion revolves around a motion to consider Giorgio A. Tsoukalos a scientist for Maori Parliamentary Purposes. Participants explore various perspectives on Tsoukalos's qualifications, his public persona, and the implications of labeling him as a scientist.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether Tsoukalos himself desires to be considered a scientist, suggesting he may prefer other identities.
  • Several participants express skepticism about Tsoukalos's credibility, labeling him a "crackpot" and citing examples of his statements as nonsensical.
  • One participant argues that Tsoukalos's theories about ancient humans misconstruing aliens as god-like beings are more rational than the existence of such beings.
  • Another participant highlights Tsoukalos's long tenure at the Center for Ancient Astronaut Research as a point of contention regarding his qualifications.
  • Some participants humorously engage with the topic, making jokes about aliens and probing, which reflects a light-hearted tone amidst the debate.
  • There are assertions that if someone appears to embody the characteristics of a scientist, they should be considered one, despite doubts about Tsoukalos's scientific rigor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether Tsoukalos should be considered a scientist. There are multiple competing views, with some supporting the motion and others strongly opposing it.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying degrees of skepticism about Tsoukalos's qualifications and the seriousness of the motion, indicating a lack of clarity on what constitutes being a scientist in this context.

Should Giorgio Tsoukalos be considered a scientist as per the thread?

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A motion has been moved that Giorgio A. Tsoukalos be, for Maori Parliamentary Purposes, considered a scientist. Those in favour will vote yes, to the contrary no.

The poll will be opened for one week, ending 16th July 2013 17:19 NZST.
 
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I think we should consider what he wants. Does he want to be considered a scientist? Maybe he wants to be considered a dog sled racer, or a tamale vendor. No one's asked him, have they?
 
LOL.

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IMO, the guy is a crackpot. I've seen a couple of documentaries with him in them. Quite a few times he would say something that makes me literally say, out loud, "Where the hell did he come up with that?!" A non sequitur at it's finest.

"And as you can see, this artifact looks like a triangle. For that reason among many we can then deduce that aliens gave early man insight into space travel!"

:P
 
Look at the guy's hair. He's the one that's an alien.
 
This has to be the best one! lol :cry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IABsBprJJPo
 
B. Elliott said:
IMO, the guy is a crackpot.
I don't see why you think he's a crackpot. He never says "quantum" aliens. Just aliens.
 
zoobyshoe said:
I don't see why you think he's a crackpot. He never says "quantum" aliens. Just aliens.

I think it's how he approaches 'filling in the voids'. That and how quickly he dismisses the level of ingenuity early human civilization possessed.

We're currently the most advanced people this planet has ever seen. My ego refuses to allow any previous civilization to hold even the slightest similarity to ours! They were way too simple! Something along that line.
 
Tsoukalos has been the director of Erich von Däniken's Center for Ancient Astronaut Research for over 12 years

What more do you need to know? If you can't smell those qualifications, you need to ask yourself, "are YOU really a scientist?"
 
  • #10
Of course. That man is a genius, a Galileo, who will soon revolutionize science and move it to the next level.

Pay no heed to the naysayers.
 
  • #11
Hmm. No.

Honestly, it's good entertainment, but that's all it seems to be. He certainly doesn't think like a scientist. He thinks like a showman.
 
  • #12
B. Elliott said:
I think it's how he approaches 'filling in the voids'. That and how quickly he dismisses the level of ingenuity early human civilization possessed.

We're currently the most advanced people this planet has ever seen. My ego refuses to allow any previous civilization to hold even the slightest similarity to ours! They were way too simple! Something along that line.
HayleySarg said:
Hmm. No.

Honestly, it's good entertainment, but that's all it seems to be. He certainly doesn't think like a scientist. He thinks like a showman.
You two report to the Department of Remedial Humor asap.
 
  • #13
I refuse.

That's where the Aliens are. They'll brainwash me into thinking that this is even remotely funny. I couldn't have that.

Last time the aliens visited, it hurt to sit for weeks.

Cheers
 
  • #14
HayleySarg said:
I refuse.

That's where the Aliens are. They'll brainwash me into thinking that this is even remotely funny. I couldn't have that.

Last time the aliens visited, it hurt to sit for weeks.

Cheers

It's no wonder aliens don't like you. They're sick of those probe jokes.
 
  • #15
If you were me, you wouldn't be laughing.

Freakin' aliens!
 
  • #16
Where is Ivan Seeking when you need him?
 
  • #17
HayleySarg said:
Last time the aliens visited, it hurt to sit for weeks.

That's the problem with aliens in general, not even courteous enough to bring along some probe lube :frown:
 
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  • #18
I support the motion.
However, we first need to test his blood as they did in "The Thing". We can't risk an alien infiltrating the scientific community(And boy, that hair looks positively extraterrestial).
 
  • #19
His theory that ancient humans misconstrued aliens for god-like beings is much more rational than the idea that such beings actually exist, the latter being much much more prevalent in modern society. His level of craziness is still fourth in place behind astrologists, spiritual people, and religious nutbags.
 
  • #20
WannabeNewton said:
His theory that ancient humans misconstrued aliens for god-like beings is much more rational than the idea that such beings actually exist, the latter being much much more prevalent in modern society. His level of craziness is still fourth in place behind astrologists, spiritual people, and religious nutbags.

The last three people Evo and I will pretend to be, and target the rich and famous, plus those idiotic enough to pay for our 'services'... former Harold Camping followers.
 
  • #21
Who is voting that he's a scientist? He has a degree in sportscasting and works for one of the biggest crackpots of this century!
 
  • #22
Evo said:
Who is voting that he's a scientist? He has a degree in sportscasting and works for one of the biggest crackpots of this century!

**cough*cough*wbn*cough*cough**
 
  • #23
lisab said:
**cough*cough*wbn*cough*cough**

That's it! Now I get it, wbn is one of them, an Alien! I knew there was something supernatural about that guy.
 
  • #24
Bad WBN, BAD! I think some people did not take this poll seriously. :frown:
 
  • #25
Oops sorry I misread the title as "do you think Nina Dobrev should become queen of the galaxy?'"
 
  • #26
If he looks, talks, smells, tastes, feels, acts, quacks like a scientist, then he is a scientist.

The look is a dead giveaway ( based upon familiar pre-conceived illusions about the mad-scientist as illustrated in such movies as Back to the Future ).
I am not so sure about the quack.
 
  • #27
256bits said:
If he looks, talks, smells, tastes, feels, acts, quacks like a scientist, then he is a scientist.

The look is a dead giveaway ( based upon familiar pre-conceived illusions about the mad-scientist as illustrated in such movies as Back to the Future ).
I am not so sure about the quack.
How exactly did you determined the "smells , tastes , feels"?
 
  • #28
256bits said:
If he looks, talks, smells, tastes, feels, acts, quacks like a scientist, then he is a scientist.

The look is a dead giveaway ( based upon familiar pre-conceived illusions about the mad-scientist as illustrated in such movies as Back to the Future ).
I am not so sure about the quack.

i love mad scientist, or the concept of.
 
  • #29
bp_psy said:
How exactly did you determined the "smells , tastes , feels"?

Only his wife and man's best friend, his dog, would know for sure.
 
  • #30
I think you should promote him to Evangelist. Its a much more interesting and descriptive title with a little bit of awe to go with it. I am sure he'd like that one much better.

He always reminds me of Howie Mandel when he was younger and on St Elsewhere with real hair.
 

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