Mr. Tenenbaum's and Prof. Mattuck's advice not working (ODE)

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The discussion revolves around solving the ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by \(y'' + y = 4x \sin x\) using the method of complexification. Participants are exploring the complementary function and particular solution, particularly focusing on the calculations involving derivatives of terms like \(x^2 e^{ix}\).

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining the calculation of the second derivative of \(x^2 e^{ix}\) and questioning the accuracy of the original poster's work. There are discussions about the form of the particular solution and the coefficients involved.

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There is an active exploration of the calculations related to the second derivative and the setup of the particular solution. Some participants are providing feedback on the original poster's approach, suggesting that there may be errors in the differentiation process.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as posed, focusing on the specific terms and coefficients derived from the ODE without reaching a definitive conclusion about the correctness of the original poster's answer.

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Homework Statement
$$
y'' + y = 4x \sin x
$$
Relevant Equations
Case 2: Q(x) contains a term which, ignoring constant coefficients, is ##x^k## times a term ##u(x)## of ##y_c##, where ##k## is zero or a positive integer. In this case a particular solution ##y_p## of ##(21.1)## will be a linear combination of ##x^{k+1} u(x)## and all its linearly independent derivatives.
All right, we got
$$
y'' + y = 4x \sin x
$$

We are doing the Complexification
$$
\tilde{y''} + \tilde{y} = 4x e^{ix}
$$
Complementary function:
$$
\begin{align*}
\textrm{characteristic equation =}\\
m^2 + 1 = 0 \\
m = \pm i \\
\tilde{y_c} = c_1 e^{ix} + c_2 e^{-ix} \\
\end{align*}
$$

Q(x), that is RHS of the original non-homogeneous equation, is xeix (ignoring constant coefficients), therefore,
$$
\begin{align*}
\tilde{y_p} = (Ax^2 + Bx + C) e^{ix} \\
\tilde{y_p }'' + \tilde{y_ p} = 2 A e^{ix} + 2 i (Ax+B) e^{ix} \\
4x = 2A + 2iAx + 2B \\
\implies A = -2 i , ~B = 2 i \\
\end{align*}
$$

Hence,
$$
\begin{align*}
\tilde{y_p} = (-2 i x^2 + 2i x + C) e^{ix} \\
\textrm{We can leave that C because it is already there in}~y_c \\
Im(\tilde{y_p})= y_p = -2 x^2 \cos x + 2x \cos x \\
\end{align*}
$$

The answer that I have got is wrong, but I don't know where the mistake lies.
 
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I don't think you calculated (x^2e^{ix})'' correctly. Please show your working for this.
 
pasmith said:
I don't think you calculated (x^2e^{ix})'' correctly. Please show your working for this.
$$
\begin{align*}
(x^2 e^{ix})' = 2xe^{ix} + \iota x^2 e^{ix} \\
(x^2 e^{ix})'' = 2 e^{ix} + \iota ~ 2x e^{ix} + \iota 2 x e^{ix} - x^2e^{ix} \\
(x^2 e^{ix})'' = 2 e^{ix} + \iota~ 4x e^{ix} - x^2e^{ix}
\end{align*}
$$
A linear combination of ##x^2 e^{ix}##, ##2x e^{ix} + \iota x^2 e^{ix}##, and ##2 e^{ix} + \iota~4x e^{ix} -x^2e^{ix}## would give us something like this:
$$
\begin{align*}
A' x^2 e^{ix} + 2B' x e^{ix} + \iota ~ B' x^2 e^{ix} + 2C' e^{ix} + \iota~ 4C' x e^{ix} - C' x^2 e^{ix} \\
(A'+ \iota~ B' -C') x^2 e^{ix} + (2B' + \iota 4C') x e^{ix} + 2C' e^{ix} \\
A x^2 e^{ix} + B x e^{ix} + C e^{ix} \\
(Ax^2 + Bx + C)e^{ix} \\
\end{align*}
$$
 
If y_p = Ax^2 e^{ix} + Bxe^{ix} then <br /> y&#039;&#039;_p + y_p = A(2 + 4ix)e^{ix} + B(2i)e^{ix}. Setting that equal to 4xe^{ix} gives <br /> \begin{split}<br /> 2A + 2iB &amp;= 0 \\<br /> 4iA &amp;= 4.\end{split}
 
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