Multivariable Limits: Substitution technique

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The discussion revolves around evaluating limits of multivariable functions, specifically focusing on the limits of the forms \(\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow 0\\y\rightarrow 0}} \sin\frac{xy}{xy}\) and \(\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow 0\\y\rightarrow 0}} \sin(\frac{xyz}{xyz})\). Participants are exploring the application of substitution techniques in these contexts.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of substitution to simplify the limits, questioning why the same technique yields different results for the two expressions. There is also clarification sought regarding the inclusion of the variable \(z\) in the second limit.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing differing interpretations of the limits. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of limits and the implications of variable dependencies, but no consensus has been reached on the final outcomes.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the correct formulation of the limits, particularly the omission of the variable \(z\) in the second limit. Participants are also considering the implications of using degrees versus radians in their calculations.

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I was presented with the two following questions:

[tex]\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow 0\\y\rightarrow 0}} \sin\frac{xy}{xy}[/tex]

and

[tex]\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow 0\\y\rightarrow 0}} \sin(\frac{xyz}{xyz})[/tex]

I figured I would do a simple substitution: let t = xy for the first one, and the limit becomes as t ->0, sin t /t would approach 1. The answer is right for the first one.

Why doesn't the same technique work for the second one? (The answer for the second one is 0).
 
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In the second one are you also meant to have the limit be as z goes to 0?

Whenever x, y, and z are all nonzero, then xyz/(xyz) = 1. So sin(xyz/(xyz)) = sin 1. This does not depend on the path that you approach (0, 0, 0) by, so the limit is sin 1.
 
johndoe3344 said:
I was presented with the two following questions:

[tex]\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow 0\\y\rightarrow 0}} \sin\frac{xy}{xy}[/tex]

and

[tex]\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow 0\\y\rightarrow 0}} \sin(\frac{xyz}{xyz})[/tex]

I figured I would do a simple substitution: let t = xy for the first one, and the limit becomes as t ->0, sin t /t would approach 1. The answer is right for the first one.

Why doesn't the same technique work for the second one? (The answer for the second one is 0).
No, the way you've written it, the lilmit for the second one is not 0. It is, as Orthodontist said, sin 1, exactly like the first.
 
Sorry. I'm very bad with using latex.

I actually meant [sin (xy )]/(xy)

and likewise for the second one. For the second one, there's also a z->0 which I omitted. Sorry again.
 
In that case your reasoning is correct and the limit is 1, not 0. Why did you think it is 0? (maybe you're using your calculator to check and you're using degrees instead of radians?)
 

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