Mx''+dx'+kx=constant*t^2*cos(constant*t^2) ?

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific second-order differential equation related to a mechanical system, specifically a nacelle with blades on a tower. The equation incorporates known parameters such as mass, damping, and stiffness, and aims to describe the system's behavior over a time interval of 0 to 20 seconds as the motor starts and angular velocity varies.

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  • One participant presents the differential equation mx'' + dx' + kx = c*Pi^2*t^2*cos(Pi*t^2) and describes the physical context of a nacelle system.
  • Another participant suggests using a numerical method and provides a link to a related thread.
  • A different participant claims that the ordinary differential equation (ODE) can be solved exactly in Maple and provides a complex general solution.
  • Further, a participant advises on setting initial conditions in Maple to obtain a specific solution for the ODE.
  • Another participant explains that the "_z1" in the Maple output is a variable of integration and suggests using the value function to simplify the expression.

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There is no consensus on the best approach to solve the differential equation, as participants provide different methods and suggestions without agreeing on a single solution.

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The discussion includes complex mathematical expressions and solutions that may depend on specific initial conditions and the interpretation of the variable of integration in Maple. The exact nature of the solutions and their simplifications remains unresolved.

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mx''+dx'+kx=constant*t^2*cos(constant*t^2) ?

Hey folks out there.

Im having a problem with this differential equation.

The mathematical model beneath is supposed to describe a nacelle with blades, standing og a tower, as shown in the embedded picture. The stiffness k of the beams are know, as well as the damping d and the mass m. The unbalance c is also know. What i need to describe, is the first 20 seconds (t=0..20), where the motor starts, and the angular velocity of the nacelle varies linear from 0 up to 10 Hz. The angular velocity is therefore given by omega=Pi [rad/s^2]*t

So now the equations:

mx''+dx'+kx=p(t) where

p(t)=c*Pi^2*t^2*cos(Pi*t^2), t=0..20

All constants are known. I only need to describe the solution for t=0..20.

I seem to get very complex results - and it should indeed be solveable. Any help - links or solutions is very very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Tobias
 

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Your ODE cam be solved in Maple exactly. General solution is not so complicated

ans := x(t) = exp(1/2/m*(-d+(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2))*t)*_C2+exp(-1/2*(d+(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2))/m*t)*_C1+1/64*c/(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*(((1-I)*d*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)-(4+4*I)*Pi*m^2+(2-2*I)*k*m+(-1+I)*d^2)*erf(1/8*((1-I)*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)+(4+4*I)*Pi*t*m+(-1+I)*d)*2^(1/2)/Pi^(1/2)/m)*exp(1/8*(-4*d*Pi*t*m-I*d^2+2*I*k*m+d*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*I+4*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*Pi*t*m)/Pi/m^2)+erf(1/8*2^(1/2)/Pi^(1/2)*((-1-I)*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)+(-4+4*I)*Pi*t*m+(1+I)*d)/m)*((-1-I)*d*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)+(4-4*I)*Pi*m^2-(2+2*I)*k*m+(1+I)*d^2)*exp(-1/8*(4*d*Pi*t*m-I*d^2+2*I*k*m+d*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*I-4*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*Pi*t*m)/Pi/m^2)-((1+I)*d*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)+(4-4*I)*Pi*m^2-(2+2*I)*k*m+(1+I)*d^2)*erf(1/8*((1+I)*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)+(-4+4*I)*Pi*t*m+(1+I)*d)*2^(1/2)/Pi^(1/2)/m)*exp(1/8*(-4*d*Pi*t*m+d^2*I-2*I*k*m+d*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*I-4*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*Pi*t*m)/Pi/m^2)-((-1+I)*d*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)-(4+4*I)*Pi*m^2+(2-2*I)*k*m+(-1+I)*d^2)*erf(1/8*2^(1/2)/Pi^(1/2)*((-1+I)*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)+(4+4*I)*Pi*t*m+(-1+I)*d)/m)*exp(-1/8*(4*d*Pi*t*m+d^2*I-2*I*k*m+d*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*I+4*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*Pi*t*m)/Pi/m^2)-8*(d^2-4*k*m)^(1/2)*m*cos(Pi*t^2)*2^(1/2))*2^(1/2)/m^2;

It'll be better if you assign the initial conditions, for example

ic:=x(0)=0,D(x)(0)=1;

and then solve the ode with given ic

ode:=m*diff(x(t),t,t)+d*diff(x(t),t)+k*x(t)=c*Pi^2*t^2*cos(Pi*t^2);

ans:=dsolve({ode,ic});
 


Thanks, everyone.

So when i put in my initial conditions, and the values of m, d and k, i get out this from Maple 13:

ans := x(t) = (1/125650000)*exp(-(3/4)*t)*Pi^2*sqrt(359)*((Int(cos((7/4)*sqrt(359)*_z1)*_z1^2*cos(Pi*_z1^2)*exp((3/4)*_z1), _z1 = 0 .. t))*sin((7/4)*sqrt(359)*t)-(Int(sin((7/4)*sqrt(359)*_z1)*_z1^2*cos(Pi*_z1^2)*exp((3/4)*_z1), _z1 = 0 .. t))*cos((7/4)*sqrt(359)*t))

, which is quite simple actually. However, how do i get rid of the "_z1" - can I in some way tell maple that is only has to solve the equation form t=0 to t=20?

THanks again!

Tobias
 


That _z1 is the variable of integration. See those "Int" bits in there?

If you say value(...) on your right-hand-side Maple will do the integrals, and the answer is not so short afterward.
 

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