My AA batteries short circuited, ruined?

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Discussion Overview

This discussion revolves around the potential damage to AA rechargeable batteries that short-circuited, as well as concerns about overheating and capacity loss. Participants explore the implications of overheating on battery performance and safety, while also touching on unrelated issues regarding a D-cell battery charger for a baby swing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the batteries were hot and connected, raising concerns about potential damage and whether they could still be used.
  • Another participant suggests that the batteries are likely damaged and may have gone flat, emphasizing the importance of being cautious with batteries and wires.
  • A later reply discusses the possibility of the batteries losing charge capacity due to overheating and chemical changes, questioning whether they can still be recharged effectively.
  • One participant explains that rechargeable batteries have a pressure relief system that may reduce the risk of explosion but could lead to a permanent reduction in charge capacity and increased internal resistance if overheated.
  • Another participant warns that any battery that gets too hot while charging should be disconnected and disposed of, indicating that an internal short may render them worthless.
  • An unrelated post introduces a query about a D-cell battery charger for a baby swing, with suggestions regarding the appropriate current specifications for the charger.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the extent of damage to the batteries and whether they can still be safely recharged. There is no consensus on the best course of action regarding the overheated batteries, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding their usability.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention concerns about overheating, pressure relief systems, and the potential for internal shorts, but do not provide definitive conclusions about the state of the batteries or the implications of their overheating.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals dealing with rechargeable batteries, particularly those concerned about safety and performance after overheating, as well as those seeking advice on battery chargers for devices.

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I had 4 1.2 volt guys lying around in a holder. The 2 wires sticking out were lying around and I started smelling stuff. I look down and I see they are connected together and the steel points seem to be slightly melting together, the batteries were hot, did it damage them or is this okay?
 
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its probably damaged them
ie. they have probably gone flat or close to it

you need to be more careful with batteries and wires like that
its how fires can startDave
 
davenn said:
its probably damaged them
ie. they have probably gone flat or close to it

you need to be more careful with batteries and wires like that
its how fires can start


Dave

Yep, obviously they went flat. I wouldn't really care if they were normal AA batteries, I'd just buy new ones. BUT those are high grade rechargable batteries, so I can always charge them again.

I was simply wondering if it had damaged or lessened the maximum capacity by going over some sort of heat tolerance limit, maybe the heat started some chemical changes that may have damaged the capacity. That was simply what I was wondering about. Buying 4 rechargable batteries is kind of expensive for a student like me.
 
The batteries will have a pressure relief system to reduce the risk of them exploding if they overheat. That should re-seal itself when they cool down, but you lose some of the contents of the electrolyte, e.g. water that is boiled off as steam. That will permanently reduce the charge capacity of the batteries, and increase the internal resistance, so they maximum current they can deliver is reduced and they will get hotter at normal charging and discharging rates.

If the battery cases are not obviously distorted, I would try recharging them before you throw them away. But don't use them for anything critical in case they start to leak, or they self-discharge faster than they are supposed to.
 
AlephZero said:
The batteries will have a pressure relief system to reduce the risk of them exploding if they overheat. That should re-seal itself when they cool down, but you lose some of the contents of the electrolyte, e.g. water that is boiled off as steam. That will permanently reduce the charge capacity of the batteries, and increase the internal resistance, so they maximum current they can deliver is reduced and they will get hotter at normal charging and discharging rates.

If the battery cases are not obviously distorted, I would try recharging them before you throw them away. But don't use them for anything critical in case they start to leak, or they self-discharge faster than they are supposed to.

UPdate. I have tried recharging them and am now waiting to see what happens, I tried them before that and there was no charge left. Now they are getting scarily hot, not sure if they did before but I think it's probably a bad sign.
 
Any time any battery gets too hot while charging is the time to disconnect and throw them in the battery recycling bin after they cool down. They have an internal short which makes them worthless.
 
Hi
I have a fisher price baby swing. It has 4 1.5v batteries of size D. I tried to convert it to a 6v DC charger but that didn't work. The charger specification is output=400mA 2.4VA. If someone can help me please to find a right charger as this doesn't work correctly and swing does not swing as swings with the batteries. Swing becomes more noisy and does not swing.
 

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