My old biker friend's wife's body was found today.

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The discussion revolves around the recent death of a biker's wife, exploring themes of grief, loss, and the impact of mortality on relationships and personal experiences. Participants share their reflections on death, personal losses, and the emotional complexities surrounding these events.

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  • One participant notes that the deceased had diabetes and was reported to be driving erratically before the accident.
  • Another expresses relief that no other individuals were involved in the incident.
  • Several participants share their condolences and personal experiences with loss, reflecting on the inevitability of death and its emotional toll.
  • Some participants discuss the challenges of preparing for the death of loved ones, emphasizing the importance of basic end-of-life preparations.
  • There are reflections on the benefits of experiencing loss at a younger age, with one participant suggesting it can provide a sense of preparedness for future losses.
  • Humor is introduced in the discussion through anecdotes about children making up excuses for missing school, which lightens the tone amidst the serious subject matter.
  • One participant recounts their personal history with loss, mentioning friends who have died and the impact of these experiences on their current feelings about riding without companions.

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Participants generally share a common understanding of the emotional weight of loss, but there are varying perspectives on how to cope with it and the implications of past experiences. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best ways to prepare for and deal with grief.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their preparedness for future losses, indicating a lack of consensus on how to approach these difficult topics. The emotional responses and personal anecdotes vary widely, reflecting individual experiences and coping mechanisms.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals dealing with grief, those reflecting on mortality, or anyone seeking to understand the emotional complexities surrounding loss and personal relationships.

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She had suffered from diabetes, and a driver following her has claimed that she was driving erratically and veering before heading off the road and into a pretty large stream. We were never very close personally, but it was still very sad to see her family (most of whom I know) going through the grief and worry.
 
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Terrible news, only positive is that others weren't involved in a collision.
 
Please extend my condolences to the family.

I just found out that a wife of an associate (through work) died earlier this week.

My mom and mother-in-law are slowing down. Both have had mini-strokes in the past year or so. In a somewhat sobering conversation with my sister, she gives my mom just a few more years - maybe 5 at tops.
 
Astronuc said:
My mom and mother-in-law are slowing down. Both have had mini-strokes in the past year or so. In a somewhat sobering conversation with my sister, she gives my mom just a few more years - maybe 5 at tops.
Same with my mom. About 2 years ago. Never had a close family member die. Not looking forward to it.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Never had a close family member die. Not looking forward to it.

With the benefit of hindsight (and not wanting to sound callous) I think there's sone benefit in getting that experience out of the way while you are still fairly young. Having an apparently fit and healthy grandparent just "drop dead" in the garden while pruning the roses, and a parent being killed in a road accident (with the other driver taking all the blame, and getting a prison sentence) wasn't very nice at the time, but now being at the age where older friends and relatives are beginning to pop their clogs fairly regularly, at least I know more or less what to expect - including the necessary practical and legal stuff that needs to be done.
 
AlephZero said:
With the benefit of hindsight (and not wanting to sound callous) I think there's sone benefit in getting that experience out of the way while you are still fairly young.
Yup. A fact that does not escape me. That's why I'm not looking forward to it. I'm not prepared.

And my wife lost her parents when she was still a teen, so it's going to be twice as awkward for us.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Yup. A fact that does not escape me. That's why I'm not looking forward to it. I'm not prepared.

And my wife lost her parents when she was still a teen, so it's going to be twice as awkward for us.
Please get prepared! Just basic preparations... End-of life stuff is very complicated if you have children.

Anyway, her younger brother (about my age) related to the newspaper reporter that he wanted to play hooky one day and asked his older twin sisters to cover for him. The Asst. Principal asked the the recently-deceased sister why he wasn't at school, and she said it was because he had the flu. He asked her twin sister why their brother was missing from school, and she said that he had a broken leg. You can't make this stuff up. Kids are fun, and we don't always realize it.
 
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Jimmy can't make it to school today, he's sick. This is my father speaking.
 
I might be able to come to PF today because I have the flu and a broken leg!
 
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turbo said:
I might be able to come to PF today because I have the flu and a broken leg!

Turbo, I read that without reading the posts leading up to it, and thought, Holy crap - a stroke, the flu, and a broken leg -- what is going on with this guy?!

:smile:
 
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lisab said:
Turbo, I read that without reading the posts leading up to it, and thought, Holy crap - a stroke, the flu, and a broken leg -- what is going on with this guy?!

:smile:
I could have a heart-attack, too, but it i might be too much. :-p
 
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Sorry to hear of that, Turbo. At our age, it happens more frequently. Law of averages, plus acquaintances who have already been around for a long time.
 
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A few years back, I put my Harley Wide Glide up for sale and the fellow that bought it asked "what's wrong with it?" I told him nothing. One friend had built a new house and was finishing the interior and had no time to ride, another had bought an old fixer-upper out in the country and had no time to ride, and the last had died of liver cancer (perhaps due to Agent Orange exposure in 'Nam). He was the husband of the woman who died recently. We four always rode together, and with no biker buddies, riding wasn't all that fun.
 

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