Nano Focus: Group Theory Involved?

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The discussion centers around the involvement of group theory in focused ion beam (FIB) systems and the mathematical frameworks applicable to these systems. Participants explore the relationship between group theory and various imaging techniques, particularly in the context of nanoscience and related computational tools.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the role of group theory in focused ion beam systems, noting a connection to a presentation on Raman scattering where group theory was applied.
  • Another participant argues that FIB is primarily an imaging technique and suggests that group theory is not necessary for ion beam imaging, contrasting it with Raman scattering.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the mathematical principles behind software used in FIB, mentioning specific codes like IGUN and Superfish, and seeks clarification on their underlying mechanics.
  • One participant acknowledges that while group theory may not be essential for FIB, it can be applied broadly and suggests that there may be relevant applications in the field.
  • A participant inquires if others are engaged in work related to focused ion beams or nanoscience, indicating a desire for community engagement.
  • Another participant expresses confidence in the knowledge of others in the forum but notes a perceived hesitance to contribute to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of group theory in focused ion beam systems, with some asserting its irrelevance while others suggest potential applications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the mathematical frameworks involved in FIB.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific mathematical principles and computational methods used in FIB, highlighting a lack of detailed understanding of the software involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in focused ion beam technology, nanoscience, and the application of group theory in various scientific contexts may find this discussion relevant.

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I don't know where to ask this question but i believe most people stay here so i am doing it..

In focussed ion beam systems,,is group theory involved,,or what kind of maths actually is involved..I have just crossed 2 initial steps of group theory but i met Dresselhaus(http://web.mit.edu/physics/facultyandstaff/faculty/millie_dresselhaus.html) and she presented on "Raman scattering from one dimensional system."(http://www.iconsat2006.com/programmeer17a.htm ) and there in one of sildes she used group theory to estimate some coefficents m,n in nanotubes...i don't remember much..Well i went upto her and asked how is group theory involved..She said "quite a lot"..But in focussed ion beam i haven't seen any group theory..Can anyone give me some intution or anything..
 
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FIB is, just like SEM, an imaging technique. It is quite different from Raman, where group theory can be used to determine if a particular transition has a non-zero amplitude. I don't believe you need much group theory for Ion Beam imaging.
 
Gokul,,then what kind of maths is holding up there...like the code IGUN ,Superfish which are used treat each ion as discrete entity and how then its working...the author of these codes provide only executable files and i have run both of them but i don't even have a trace of idea what's actually happening...or other people also whom i know don't also know much in this regard..
by the way have you worked with FIB ...which equipment you are using .
 
I'm not sure if you need to use group theory, but you can apply group theory to a lot of stuff, and I am sure you could find something that you could apply it to in this.
 
Is anyone here doing any kind of work on focussed ion beams or any thing related to nanoscience..
 
i am pretty confident that people here do know lot of things but why they are feeling hesitant...may be its one post unlikely to be present in the place where people enjoy..
 

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