Need a more pedagogic book than Halliday's

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The discussion revolves around the search for a more pedagogic physics textbook than Halliday's Fundamentals of Physics, particularly for someone beginning their journey in quantum mechanics (QM) and mathematics. The participant expresses a need for a book that provides clear, step-by-step explanations of calculus applications in physics, ideally with visual aids to enhance understanding.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a physics book that offers logical, step-by-step explanations of calculus in relation to dynamic phenomena, emphasizing the need for thoroughness and visual aids.
  • Another participant suggests Susskind's Theoretical Minimum books as a potential resource for learning physics without prior college experience.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the availability of a calculus-based physics book that meets the specific needs outlined, suggesting that such books often assume prior knowledge of calculus.
  • There is a recognition that passive reading of mathematics is insufficient for learning, and active problem-solving is necessary for mastery.
  • The original poster acknowledges their unusual approach of speed reading math concepts to gauge their understanding and IQ, indicating a willingness to return to solving equations actively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges of finding a suitable pedagogic physics book that meets the specific needs of a beginner with little prior knowledge. There is no consensus on the existence of a book that provides the desired level of detail and pedagogical approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in available resources for beginners in physics who also require a strong foundation in calculus, as well as the potential pitfalls of speed reading mathematical concepts without engaging in problem-solving.

  • #31
Micromass, by deep understanding I meant understanding through boring math drills.

The websites alone are not sufficient, but it helps you understand the book, so that one can work through the problems in it.

In my first post I wrote that "I know that I must use a lot of time on actively solving particular math problems", and I have repeated this several times, so why keep spoon-feeding me something I know already?

Vanadium, I can draw a graph, and I am able to follow the logical steps of calculus when it is explained by a good teacher. But my understanding is superficial of course, almost like having enough knowledge about a new language to guess the meaning of sentences in a newspaper article, but without being able to actively use the language. So I have written repeatedly that I will work on active problem solving in order to deepen my understanding of math. Is that nonsense?

I have also mentioned a few times that I misjudged Halliday's book. I agree with you of course that I need to know more calculus to understand it. But in general I still believe that many math books and teachers should explain things better, and I'm certainly not alone in thinking this.

But no point discussing this topic any further.
 
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  • #32
Thank you all for your participation.

The OP's question has been thoroughly answered and now its time to close this thread.

Take care
Jedi
 

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