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The discussion revolves around a senior mathematics student's course selection for their final year, with the goal of strengthening their graduate school application. Participants explore various options for advanced mathematics courses, considering the implications of each choice on the student's GPA and preparedness for graduate studies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that taking graduate-level Algebra 1 is essential to improve the student's transcript, given their previous low grade in abstract algebra.
  • Others argue that the student should consider the difficulty of jumping to graduate-level courses without adequate preparation, emphasizing the importance of being ready for such challenges.
  • A participant recommends pursuing an independent study with a professor to address weaknesses in algebra while also contributing to an undergraduate thesis.
  • Some contributors advocate for taking more challenging courses to demonstrate capability, suggesting that a strong performance could offset previous lower grades.
  • There is a viewpoint that playing it safe with easier courses may not be sufficient for graduate school admissions, and that taking risks could be beneficial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on whether the student should take more challenging courses or opt for safer, less demanding options. There is no consensus on the best approach, as opinions vary based on individual experiences and perspectives on graduate school expectations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of course difficulty and performance in relation to graduate school admissions, but there are unresolved questions about the student's readiness for advanced coursework and the specific requirements of potential graduate programs.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering graduate school in mathematics or related fields, particularly those seeking advice on course selection and academic performance strategies.

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I will be a senior next year, graduating with a BS in Math. I want to go to graduate school. Unfortunately, my past few semesters were not the best. I wasn't the most motivated student.
Grades in math courses, in order, were:

Calc Sequence: A's

Diff Eq: A
Proofs (required): A

Linear Algebra: A
Combinatorics: B+

Abstract Algebra: C

Intro Analysis 1: C+
Complex Variables: B+

Intro Analysis 2: B+
Geometry:A

The C in Abstract Algebra and C+ in Analysis are really making my transcript look weak.

I have one year left, and I have narrowed down my options for the fall to the following:

Modern Analysis: undergrad and grad levels offered
Algebra 1: grad level
Topology: undergrad
Numerical Analysis: undergrad

What should I do to strengthen my application?

Option 1:
Modern Analysis: grad level
Toplogy
Numerical

Option 2:
Algebra 1: grad level
Modern Analysis: undergrad
Topology

Clearly, the second one would strengthen my application, but I run a greater risk of doing poorly, lowering my gpa, and forfeiting my chance of writing an honors research thesis with a professor, which in the end would just be embarrassing because I've already talked to my professor about it.

What would you do in this situation? I'm a better student now, and I'll be studying for the next two months. I'm thinking it might be worth the risk.

Any advice?
 
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I would go with option 2. With only 1 course in Algebra, and with a grade of C (which might as well be an F as far as grad schools are concerned), you should definitely learn more algebra, as well as prove to them that you're able to do algebra (unless, of course, you have no intention of going anywhere near algebra in grad school). That said, jumping from a single undergrad course in abstract algebra to grad level might be a bit harsh, depending on how the course is laid out, so you might have to start studying early for it. Undergrad analysis should be doable, and will also help show them that you're able to do analysis, such that they may forget about your earlier grades.
 
Hi. I got A's in my algebra courses for undergrad. We had multiple ones. But I took a C in the grad one. That and the C I got for grad topology are the only grades lower than a B on my transcript.

Here's my advice. Do an independent with an algebra type professor in algebra. Make it a part of your undergraduate thesis. That kills two birds with one stone and it shows you are big enought to face your weakness and do your best to stregthen them.

Don't toy with math grad classes unless you're ready. There is no shame in not being ready. There is shame in not trying to fix your weaknesses though.

I would take modern analysis too from your undergrad classes. Don't down play the difficulty in analysis. I assume it is going to be Measure theory or possibly Fourier Analysis. You need those. And if it's multi-dimensional analysis then you absolutely need that. All those will be assumed known when you get to grad school.
 
You're going to need to do something spectacular to get into grad school. If you play it safe and get decent grads in the easy option, you won't get into grad school anyway. Might as well attempt to shoot the moon and ace all three courses in the difficult option.

If you can get an A in grad algebra or a great score on the GRE, it might look like you're gifted but lazy. Grad schools will take a chance on that. Otherwise, it just looks like you're an average student. They won't take a chance on that.
 
I think it all depends on what type of school you want to go to.

I would say challenge yourself and don't shy away from it. Embrace it in fact. Because if you can't handle that workload, grad school is going to be even tougher. You have to remember in graduate school, at least for the first 2 years, you will be taking 3-4 homework intensive courses a semester. They want to see that you are able to handle the work. Get used to busting your ass or grad school really won't become a reality.
 

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