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The discussion revolves around a participant seeking advice on study strategies and resources as they prepare to start a B.Sc. in Physics at a German university. The focus includes the sequencing of physics and mathematics courses, the appropriateness of specific textbooks, and strategies for effective learning in a challenging academic environment.

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  • The participant plans to start with "Electromagnetism" and catch up on previous courses while also preparing for upcoming subjects.
  • Some participants question the necessity of reading "Calculus" by Spivak, suggesting it may be too challenging for someone with only high school math experience.
  • There is a discussion about whether a physics student should focus on "special" calculus books tailored for physicists versus standard calculus texts.
  • One participant notes that while Spivak is a beautiful book, it is not essential for physicists and may require significant time investment.
  • Another participant emphasizes that it is ultimately up to the individual to choose their study materials based on their interest in the mathematics behind physics.

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Participants express differing opinions on the appropriateness of Spivak for the participant's background and whether specialized math books are necessary for physics students. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to studying mathematics for physics.

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Participants highlight the varying levels of mathematical background and readiness among students, which may influence their choice of study materials. There is also an acknowledgment of the potential difficulty of certain texts like Spivak.

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This discussion may be useful for new physics students seeking guidance on study strategies, textbook recommendations, and how to effectively prepare for their courses in physics and mathematics.

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Hello everyone,

I'll try to explain my situation as quickly as possible:
I will be starting a B.Sc. in Physics at a German university in 2 weeks.

I will be beginning in the second semester, so this semester I'll begin with "Electromagnetism" (Physics II), and next semester I'll be learning "Classical Mechanics & Thermodynamics" (Physics I) and "Optics, Analytical Mechanics, Quantum Mechanics" (Physics III) at the same time, to catch up. I will also learn Maths II (Linear Algebra, I guess) before Maths I (Calculus, I guess).

Knowing this, I tried to prepare myself a bit, and I reviewed Chapters 1-20 of "University Physics", certainly a bit too quickly, but the idea was to get an idea of what is in Physics I and at least grasp the main ideas.

Additionally, I have now begun to read "Calculus" by Spivak, which I intend to read thoroughly, to build good maths foundations.

Now I'm thinking of also preparing for the E&M Course, by watching some Walter Lewin lectures on this topic. The idea is not to learn it very deeply already (which the course will be for), but to already get an idea of what's coming, so that the lectures won't be completely new. During the semester, I plan to also review the topic seen in the lectures in "University Physics", to get another point of view of the same topic, to learn it in English, and also simply to refresh and summarize the topics.

Well, that's pretty much my plan for the moment, but I'm not so sure these are all good ideas as the situation is a bit special (starting in the second semester). For the maths, I have a solid High school foundation, as I had 8 hours of maths/week, but this doesn't go well beyond derivation, integration, complex numbers etc of course.Maybe you have some idea how to improve my studying? Or just some advice you feel could help me? Would all be welcome.

Feel free to ask if my English wasn't clear somewhere.

Best wishes,
 
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Why are you reading Spivak? Do you know calculus already?
 
I looked at Spivak because I saw it recommended, and as it looked nice I decided to pick it.

What do you mean exactly by "knowing" calculus? As I wrote, I've only had high school math until now, even if it was a bit more than average people have (8 hours/week).

Would you recommend another book? What I've also been asking myself is: should a physics student read "special" calculus books (and in general, "special" math books)?
 
KingLing said:
What do you mean exactly by "knowing" calculus? As I wrote, I've only had high school math until now, even if it was a bit more than average people have (8 hours/week).

Have you already taken a course that covers differentiation and integration.

Would you recommend another book? What I've also been asking myself is: should a physics student read "special" calculus books (and in general, "special" math books)?

No, it's not necessary. But definitely do it if you're interested in going deeper in math
 
Yes, we covered differentiation and integration in high school.

What I meant was if it is recommended to take up some "Maths for physicists" or "Calculus for physicists" book rather than standard Math/Calculus books?

Btw, thanks for your answers Micromass!
 
KingLing said:
Yes, we covered differentiation and integration in high school.

What I meant was if it is recommended to take up some "Maths for physicists" or "Calculus for physicists" book rather than standard Math/Calculus books?

Btw, thanks for your answers Micromass!

It's up to you really. Spivak is a very beautiful book, but also very difficult and challenging. It is certainly not directly necessary for physicists. So if you're thinking of doing a "math for physicists" book, then you could very well do that. If you're interested in the mathematics behind the physics, or if you're going to study mathematical physics, then you could think about doing Spivak. But again, it's not an easy book.

So it's up to you really. But definitely expect to spend quite some time on Spivak if you choose to do it.
 
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