Calculus Need calculus of variations book for a laymen

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The discussion centers around the challenges of understanding calculus of variations, particularly in the context of studying analytical mechanics and quantum field theory (QFT). The original poster expresses a need for practical resources to grasp this topic without delving into rigorous proofs, as they find existing textbooks insufficient for their learning style. Recommendations include "The Calculus of Variations" by van Brunt, which contains physical examples, and "A First Course in the Calculus of Variations" by Mark Kot. Additionally, one participant is creating lecture notes on mathematical topics for basic QFT, including a section on calculus of variations, and shares a link to these notes, which prompts a discussion about access issues with Dropbox. Overall, the focus is on finding accessible materials to build intuition and practical skills in calculus of variations for physics applications.
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While trying to study textbooks on analytical mechanics or QFT I realized that I simply cannot operate with variations of functions in the same way I can operate with derivatives and integrals. I have never learned calculus of variations in university and, frankly, I am not much interested in this topic by itself, but I need it to go further in my attempts to learn physics.

So can anybody recommend a good practical book or may be video-course on this subject? Again, I do not need very fine details and rigorous proofs, but I need to gain practical ability to understand this stuff and gain some intuition with it. I see that some physics textbook try to introduce calculus of variations just as part of the text, but I fail to understand it to a satisfactory level.
 
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MichPod said:
While trying to study textbooks on analytical mechanics or QFT I realized that I simply cannot operate with variations of functions in the same way I can operate with derivatives and integrals. I have never learned calculus of variations in university and, frankly, I am not much interested in this topic by itself, but I need it to go further in my attempts to learn physics.

So can anybody recommend a good practical book or may be video-course on this subject? Again, I do not need very fine details and rigorous proofs, but I need to gain practical ability to understand this stuff and gain some intuition with it. I see that some physics textbook try to introduce calculus of variations just as part of the text, but I fail to understand it to a satisfactory level.
The calculus of variations is often a graduate-level course. It's pretty abstract stuff, and I doubt there's a Calculus of Variations for Dummies out there.

Now, there are certain physical problems which can be handled by the C of V which may be a little easier to understand than QFT, problems like the brachistochrone.

http://mat.uab.cat/matmat/PDFv2007/v2007n05.pdf
 
Why don't you try The Calculus of Variations by van Brunt. It has physical examples and you can skip over the theory if bored.
 
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malawi_glenn said:
I am actually in the progress writing "Lecture notes" about mathematical topics for basic Quantum Field Theory.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u3c4wzdbaqbjumq/QFT_notes.pdf?dl=0

Now I so happens that I am almost finished with the section regarding calculus of variations :)
Is there any way you could share it publicly? I do not have a dropbox account and it does not let me download it. Thanks.
 
smodak said:
Is there any way you could share it publicly? I do not have a dropbox account and it does not let me download it. Thanks.
strange that one needs a dropbox account in order to obtain access to a shared file, it has never happened to me before

no I do not want to do that because it is not finished yet
 
malawi_glenn said:
strange that one needs a dropbox account in order to obtain access to a shared file, it has never happened to me before

no I do not want to do that because it is not finished yet
Ok, I will open a free account. Thanks for sharing.
 

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