NEED Help (Basically a Law of Cosines problem)

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The problem involves determining the elongation of cables AC and AB using the Law of Cosines. The original poster expresses frustration with their approach, which involves breaking the situation into right triangles and using similar triangles, but they encounter difficulties due to the changing angles after elongation.

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  • The original poster attempts to use similar triangles to find the lengths after elongation but questions the validity of this method. They seek clarification on how to apply the Law of Cosines without knowing the angles post-elongation.

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Participants are engaging with the original poster's confusion, with some suggesting that the triangles involved are not similar due to the changing angles. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's struggle with the geometry involved.

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The original poster mentions a hint from their professor regarding the use of the Law of Cosines, indicating that there may be specific constraints or assumptions related to the problem setup that are under discussion.

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[SOLVED] NEED Help (Basically a Law of Cosines problem)

So in this problem, all I have to do is to solve it is find out by how much cables AC and AB elongate.
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I thought I could just break it into two Right triangles and just use similar triangles (before and after elongation)

If you look at the upper right triangle, let's call it ACO, where O denotes the point on the wall halfway between C and B.

Then I tried doing,
[tex]\frac{AC}{OA}=\frac{AC'}{OA'}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow AC'=\frac{300}{300\cos30}*(300\cos30+2)[/tex]

But this does not work. . . why the hell not??

My prof gave us the hint: "Use Law of Cosines to find the lengths of AC or AB after elongation"

How do I use Law of Cos if I don't know the angles after elongation, and moreover what is wrong with the process I tried?

I hate all of my classes. I miss physics.

Casey
 
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Where did you get that? Anyway, thanks! I think the dotted line should be labeled [itex]L_{AC}'[/itex] though. But now I see it. I never took a geometry course so this stuff makes me insane.

Do you know why my original method does not work?
 
because they won't be similar triangles...
 
coffeebean51 said:
because they won't be similar triangles...

ummm. . . because the angle changes right?
 
Yeah.
 
Short and to the point. I like your style beans :wink:

Welcome aboard,
Casey
 

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