Need help in calculating Engine Air Flow and Specs Explanation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the air flow needed for the intake of a Zenoah G320RC RC engine, particularly a tuned version with increased power. Participants explore the concept of volumetric efficiency (VE) and its calculation, as well as the implications of air intake design on engine performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in calculating the air flow for a tuned Zenoah G320RC engine, noting the absence of VE percentage in the provided specifications.
  • Another participant explains that VE is calculated by dividing actual measured airflow by theoretical airflow (displacement X rpm) and suggests measuring airflow or using a complex simulator for accurate calculations.
  • It is mentioned that the design of the intake (cross-sectional area and length) can influence airflow, particularly through pressure waves, but the effect may be less significant in a 2-stroke engine due to the crankcase's role in the intake system.
  • A participant questions whether a larger air intake surface could negatively affect performance, especially in comparison to a 4-stroke engine.
  • Another participant acknowledges that while a larger intake surface may not necessarily cause harm, it can affect airflow and that optimal intake design is rpm-dependent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the impact of a larger air intake surface on performance, particularly in the context of 2-stroke versus 4-stroke engines. There is no consensus on whether it would be harmful or beneficial, indicating ongoing debate.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexities of measuring airflow and the dependence on specific engine characteristics, such as rpm ranges, which remain unresolved.

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hello everyone,
i hope you're doing well, i am new to this forum so i am not sure if this is the right place for my question
what i am doing is trying to calculate the air flow needed for intake of an RC engine Zenoah G320RC
in the attachment files, it's a pdf for the info about the Standard Zenoah G320RC engine, but the one i am using is a tuned version of that one with a 30% to 40% more power, but will use the standard specs for the moment to learn, so i have been searching for calculating the air flow, the formula needs VE % but it doesn't seems to be mentioned in the specs file so i need your help to figure out how to calculate the Air Flow needed please ?

and i would like to know if a bigger air intake surface would have negative effect or it would be just more structural material which should be eliminated for weight purpose ?

thanks in advance to everyone
 

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VE is calculated by dividing the actual measured airflow by the theoretical airflow that can go in the engine (displacement X rpm). So you either need to actually measure the airflow of the engine or used a complex engine cycle simulator to do the calculations. There are no easier way.

The intake design (cross-area and length) can affect airflow by taking advantage of the pressure waves created by the engine's cycle. Although, on the intake side of a 2-stroke engine, it is not of a big effect because the crankcase is part of the intake system; So it shouldn't make a big difference to alter your intake design (as long as you don't restrict the flow).
 
jack action said:
VE is calculated by dividing the actual measured airflow by the theoretical airflow that can go in the engine (displacement X rpm). So you either need to actually measure the airflow of the engine or used a complex engine cycle simulator to do the calculations. There are no easier way.

The intake design (cross-area and length) can affect airflow by taking advantage of the pressure waves created by the engine's cycle. Although, on the intake side of a 2-stroke engine, it is not of a big effect because the crankcase is part of the intake system; So it shouldn't make a big difference to alter your intake design (as long as you don't restrict the flow).

hello Jack and thank you for your reply, there is no way to measure that or in a software, so you saying that if my air intake surface is bigger it will do harm if it was a 4 stroke ? my engine is 2 stroke
 
I don't know if it will do harm, but it can affect the airflow. A given cross-section area and length of the intake system perform better at a given rpm. If that rpm doesn't coincide with the rpm range you expect from your engine, then it can do harm.
 
jack action said:
I don't know if it will do harm, but it can affect the airflow. A given cross-section area and length of the intake system perform better at a given rpm. If that rpm doesn't coincide with the rpm range you expect from your engine, then it can do harm.

ow ! ok thank you Jack for the info :)
 

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