Need help on my understanding of gravitational waves

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of gravitational waves and the role of quadrupole moment in binary star systems. It also touches upon the sensitivity and accuracy of the LIGO detector, as well as the detection of gravitational waves through amplitude and frequency. Finally, it mentions the process of picking up a gravitational wave signal and how it can be differentiated from other noise.
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Hi, Guys. So i am doing a research paper on gravitational waves. As I read through review articles on gravitational waves and LIGO, I don't quite get a few points. The materials are really dense and I don't have the math and physics level to back it up. But I am really interested in the topic.

1) So first of all, I think one article is saying that gravitational waves have this quadrupole moment which allows it to occur. But how does quadrupole moment plays a part in binary star systems such as the neutron stars spin down. What is the connection? I can see energy loses in the system is being emitted as gravitational waves.

2) "LIGO should be able to detect gravitational waves as small as h \approx 5\times 10^{-22}"(WIKI) Using the h strength of gws equation, we approximate the magnitude of the gws to be detected in galaxy. But where in the galaxy? What is the Hubble distance? I know this h equation approximates the order of accuracy in LIGO. But how did it come about?

3) Why GWs are detected in amplitude instead of frequency? Aren't we detecting gws base on the strength(as in magnitude of energy) of it.

4)How do we know if we pick up the GWs signal? This is very ambiguous. One article i read said they derived equation to come up with the GWs signal in form of radio-wave. I know they detect the waves in the photodiode where the two beams in LIGO are measured to see if they are out of phrase.

Thank you guys so much.
 
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peacewar1 said:
1) So first of all, I think one article is saying that gravitational waves have this quadrupole moment which allows it to occur. But how does quadrupole moment plays a part in binary star systems such as the neutron stars spin down. What is the connection? I can see energy loses in the system is being emitted as gravitational waves.

What is meant is that gravitational radiation is emitted by changes in the quadrupole moment of a mass distribution, NOT the dipole moment as is the case in the electromagnetic case. This means that if you have, for example, a spherical star pulsating radially that it will not radiate gravitational waves! On the other hand, two orbiting bodies produce a changing quadrupole moment.

2) "LIGO should be able to detect gravitational waves as small as h \approx 5\times 10^{-22}"(WIKI) Using the h strength of gws equation, we approximate the magnitude of the gws to be detected in galaxy. But where in the galaxy? What is the Hubble distance? I know this h equation approximates the order of accuracy in LIGO. But how did it come about?

It comes about through complicated sensitivity curves that look like this: http://www.ligo-wa.caltech.edu/ligo_science/G060293-00.jpg These are generated by the complicated noise models of the actual detectors.

Hubble distance? That doesn't have anything to do with this.

3) Why GWs are detected in amplitude instead of frequency? Aren't we detecting gws base on the strength(as in magnitude of energy) of it.

Because the GW changes the length of the arms of the interferometer, which is an effect proportional to the amplitude of the wave. The frequency just tells you how often it's doing this. The energy in the wave is actually irrelevant for LIGO's purposes (it's not like in EM where photons have energy hbar*omega, and that's the relevant quantity. Rather, if you think of looking at a test charge as an electromagnetic wave passes by, the E-field will cause the charge to oscillate with a magnitude equal to the amplitude of the EM wave, and the same frequency as well.)

4)How do we know if we pick up the GWs signal? This is very ambiguous. One article i read said they derived equation to come up with the GWs signal in form of radio-wave. I know they detect the waves in the photodiode where the two beams in LIGO are measured to see if they are out of phrase.

What do you mean? You measure the distance in the two arms of the interferometer. If you see this distance changing by larger amounts than your noise threshold, that's a signal. If it has the right frequency characteristics, then it's possibly a GW of astrophysical origin (other things are of course possible, like falling trees nearby or construction equipment). The characteristic 'chirp' of a binary inspiral is actually an unmistakable signal, you can hear it here: http://www.einstein-online.info/spotlights/chirping_neutron_stars ).
 
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Thank you so much for your time. You are a great help!
 

1. What are gravitational waves?

Gravitational waves are ripples in the fabric of spacetime that are caused by the acceleration of massive objects, such as colliding black holes or supernovae explosions.

2. How do gravitational waves differ from other types of waves?

Unlike electromagnetic waves, which can travel through a vacuum, gravitational waves require a medium to travel through. They also have the ability to stretch and squeeze space itself as they pass through it.

3. How were gravitational waves first detected?

Gravitational waves were first directly detected in 2015 by the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) in the United States. This was done by measuring tiny changes in the length of the LIGO's arms as gravitational waves passed through them.

4. What can we learn from studying gravitational waves?

Studying gravitational waves can help us gain a better understanding of the universe, as they provide a new way of observing and studying cosmic events that cannot be seen with traditional telescopes. They can also provide insight into the nature of gravity and the behavior of black holes.

5. Are there any practical applications for gravitational waves?

While gravitational waves do not have immediate practical applications, their detection has opened up a new field of astronomy and has the potential to lead to future advancements in technology. It also confirms a major prediction of Einstein's theory of general relativity.

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