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The discussion revolves around differentiating the function f(x) = xxln(3x-6), where participants explore the differentiation of the term xx and its implications for the overall function.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the differentiation of xx, with one suggesting a substitution approach to simplify the process. There is also a mention of implicit differentiation and the use of logarithmic properties.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the differentiation steps taken, while others confirm that the approaches used are valid. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to arrive at the derivative.

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Participants are concerned about the implications of their answers on their assignment grades, indicating a need for clarity on the correctness of their methods and results.

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Homework Statement



Differentiate f(x) if f(x)=xxln(3x-6)

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The problem in f(x) is the xx so what I did was let a=xx and differentiated a with respect to x. I ended up with da/dx= (ln(x)+1)xx. Afterwards, I modified f(x) by substituting a for xx and ended up with f(x)=aln(3x-6) and differentiated that equation which gives me: f'(x)=(ln(x)+1)(ln(3x-6))(xx)+(xx/(x-2)).

Is this correct?
 
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Hey Sky.Anthony :D,

Yeh that looks good to me, now I am not sure how you did

\frac{d}{dx}(x^x)​

Im quessing as you let a=xx you did ln(a) = xln(x) and differentiated implicitly. However another way of doing this is considering

x^x = e^{ln(x^x)} = e^{xlnx}​

although you may have done it that way anyway, and of course one can come to this result from the previous, in fact that's probably how its supposed to be done, but just in case you didn't, its a lovely little gem I feel :D
 
Hey, thanks for your reply.

Once I got a=xx, I differentiated implicitly...
ln(a) = x ln(x)
da/dx 1/a = [ ln(x)+1 ]
da/dx = xx (ln(x)+1)

And then in the original function f(x)= a ln (3x-6), once I had to differentiate a, I just substituted in da/dx. I'm just curious, when you said that my answer looks good, did you mean that I am working through the problem correctly or did you mean that my answer was correct? The reason I'm asking is that the answer to this question will determine whether I get 50% for this part in my assignment or 100% :)
 
Hey Sky.Anthony,

Sorry, i did mean the answer you worked out was correct, the way you did it is perfectly fine, using a substitution certainly makes the differentiating the function easier somewhat as one doesn't have to deal with long complex expression, but without using a substitution as you did, you could do:

\begin{array}{rcl}<br /> \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}\left(x^{x}ln(3x-6)\right)&amp;=&amp;\displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}(e^{xlnx}ln(3x-6))\\\\<br /> &amp;=&amp;\displaystyle e^{xlnx}\frac{d}{dx}\left(ln(3x-6)\right) + ln(3x-6)\frac{d}{dx}(e^{xlnx})\\\\<br /> &amp;=&amp;\displaystyle e^{xlnx}\frac{3}{3x-6} + ln(3x-6)\frac{d}{d xlnx}(e^{xlnx})\frac{d}{dx}(xlnx)\\\\<br /> &amp;=&amp;\displaystyle e^{xlnx}\frac{1}{x-2} + e^{xlnx}ln(3x-6)\left(x\frac{d}{dx}(lnx) + lnx\frac{d}{dx}(x)\right)\\\\<br /> &amp;=&amp;\displaystyle \frac{e^{xlnx}}{x-2} + e^{xlnx}ln(3x-6)\left(x\left(\frac{1}{x}\right) + lnx\right)\\\\<br /> &amp;=&amp;\displaystyle \frac{x^x}{x-2} + x^x(1 + lnx)ln(3x-6)<br /> \end{array}<br />​

which is exactly what you have got :D, so hopefully you can see in that the application of the various rules; chain and product, but as long as you understand how you got to your answer that's the important thing, cheers Sky.Anthony :D
 
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Awesome! Thanks so much :)
 

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