Need help with astronomy details in a book.

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The discussion revolves around the portrayal of an astronomer character in a book, specifically focusing on the accuracy and coherence of a passage describing her work related to planet formation theories and the existence of Neptune. The scope includes conceptual clarity and technical accuracy in the context of astronomy and astrophysics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the protagonist's work aligns more with that of an astrophysicist rather than a traditional astronomer, suggesting some overlap between the two fields.
  • Another participant affirms that the terms "astronomer" and "astrophysicist" can be interchangeable, especially in the context of gathering data related to planet formation.
  • A participant expresses that the terminology used in the passage is relevant to planet formation theory, though they would feel uneasy presenting it at a conference due to the complexities involved.
  • It is noted that gas giants may form from gravitational disc instabilities rather than planetesimals, and the discussion includes the potential migration of Neptune from a closer formation location.
  • The author of the passage is open to the character sounding controversial, as it adds depth to the narrative and character interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the character's title as an astronomer versus an astrophysicist, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the characterization and technical accuracy of the passage.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved nuances regarding the specific roles of astronomers and astrophysicists, as well as the implications of the theories discussed, such as the formation of gas giants and the migration of Neptune.

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Writers and authors interested in accurately portraying scientific characters in literature, particularly in the fields of astronomy and astrophysics.

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Hi and thanks in advance for any help. The book I am currently working on features a protagonist that is an astronomer, I was hoping those more knowledgeable then I could check the passage where she describes her work and make sure it doesn't sound like gibberish.

much appreciated.

"Though she did get tired of people asking her what she did for a living. The very long answer was that she used a lot of the principles of physics and mathematics to learn more about the universe. Her particular position was to gather data on a parameter study of the possibility of tidally triggered disc instability, which she believed could theoretically could lead to enhanced planetesimal formation in the outer regions of the protoplanetary disc and could therefore be relevant for the existence of Neptune. She was leading up to writing a scientific paper to present to the field. The short answer, how and possibly why Neptune existed."
 
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I'm neither, but that sounds more like a job for an astrophysicist. Astronomers can be both thought.
 
DHF said:
Hi and thanks in advance for any help. The book I am currently working on features a protagonist that is an astronomer, I was hoping those more knowledgeable then I could check the passage where she describes her work and make sure it doesn't sound like gibberish.

much appreciated.

"Though she did get tired of people asking her what she did for a living. The very long answer was that she used a lot of the principles of physics and mathematics to learn more about the universe. Her particular position was to gather data on a parameter study of the possibility of tidally triggered disc instability, which she believed could theoretically could lead to enhanced planetesimal formation in the outer regions of the protoplanetary disc and could therefore be relevant for the existence of Neptune. She was leading up to writing a scientific paper to present to the field. The short answer, how and possibly why Neptune existed."

It doesn't sound gibberish, all the terms used are relevant in planet formation theory. Though I would feel uneasy if I heard it in a planet formation conference. It is thought that gas giants can form from gravitational disc instabilities (which can be tidally triggered) in the outer regions of protoplanetary discs via fragmentation collapse not via planetesimals as the time scales involved might be too long. However, Neptune could have indeed formed much closer in via planetesimals and then migrated outwards to its present location (see the Nice mode), but in this model disc instability wouldn't be that relevant.
newjerseyrunner said:
but that sounds more like a job for an astrophysicist. Astronomers can be both thought.
In my experience the two terms are often interchangeable. Also it's not uncommon for an astronomer to work on this sort of thing at all, especially if they're primarily working on gathering data as the paragraph points out.
 
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Thank you very much. I don't mind her sounding controversial, it actually gives her and the other character something to argue about. I just wanted to make sure she sounded like an astronomer as I am not.
 
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