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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of functions in mathematics, specifically whether certain equations qualify as functions. Participants explore definitions, properties, and examples related to functions, including graphical interpretations and mathematical formalism.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a function associates exactly one value in y for each value in x, and that a vertical line test can be used to determine if a relation is a function.
  • One participant provides a formal definition of a function as a binary relation and notes that all equations listed except for one can be represented as functions.
  • Another participant explains the concept of functions in simpler terms, emphasizing that a function must map each input to a single output.
  • There is a discussion about the distinction between range and codomain, with some participants clarifying that the range is a subset of the codomain.
  • One participant argues that equations involving y² are typically not functions unless additional conditions are met, while others discuss the implications of having multiple x-values mapping to the same y-value.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various interpretations of what constitutes a function, with some agreeing on the basic definition while others introduce nuances regarding the range and codomain. There is no consensus on the specific cases presented, particularly regarding the equation y²=4-x².

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Some participants note that the discussion may involve complexities related to definitions and the mathematical properties of functions, which are not fully resolved in the conversation.

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Hey I am really confused on Functions, and my teacher does not know how to teach properly.. please help me!:cry:

I have couple of problems in book can someone explain to me how i would go about doing them...

Question: Determine whether the equation is a function?


#1: y= x²
#2: y= x³
#3: y= 1/x
#4: y= |x|
#5: y²=4-x²

Please explain to me!o:)

Reply ASAP...
 
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This has to do with graphs right? opening up and down?
 
A function associates exactly one value (in y) to each value in x. A vertical line through any x value should cross exactly one point.
 
1busykid said:
Hey I am really confused on Functions, and my teacher does not know how to teach properly.. please help me!:cry:

I have couple of problems in book can someone explain to me how i would go about doing them...

Question: Determine whether the equation is a function?


#1: y= x²
#2: y= x³
#3: y= 1/x
#4: y= |x|
#5: y²=4-x²

Please explain to me!o:)

Reply ASAP...
A function f from A to B (commonly denoted as f:A→B) is a binary relation in which
[tex]\forall a \in A,\;\exists \, {!} \, f\left( a \right) \in B[/tex].

With the exception of #5,
every equation you listed is (can be represented as) a function [itex]f:\left\{ {X:x \in X} \right\} \to \left\{ {Y:y \in Y} \right\}[/itex]
 
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In English:

A function turns one number, usually written "x", into another number, usually written "y". For example, y = x is a function. This turns the number x into a number y -- in this case, the number y takes the same value as x. Or the function y=4x turns a number x into a number y which is four times the value of x.

The only conditions on a function is that y has to be one number. y can't be "3,4, or 5", "plus or minus 3", or so on, because those represent more than one number.

It's typical to think about functions only in terms of numbers, but a function doesn't necessarily have anything to do with numbers. Remember, although we usually have x and y stand for numbers, it can really stand for anything at all. (Why not?) x can stand for a person, or a word, or anything. For example, you can have x be a type of car, and have y equal "yes" if the car is blue and "no" if it's not. Because each type of car is either blue or not, this is an example of a function. On the other hand, if you make x be the name of a person and y be x's email address, this cannot be a function, because one person can have two email addresses.

In fancy math words, we say that the function "maps" from a certain set of things, called the domain, to another set of things, the range. The domain can be any set of things at all -- numbers, whole numbers, people, words or cars. Similarly, the range can be any set of things -- pumpkins, forums, prime numbers, dogs, etc. The only condition is that if you give it any element of the domain, the function has to pop out with only one element of the range.
 
gnomedt said:
In fancy math words, we say that the function "maps" from a certain set of things, called the domain, to another set of things, the range.
Well, technically, a function maps from the domain to the codomain...

The range of f:A→B is simply [itex]\left\{ {f\left( a \right):a \in A} \right\}[/itex], a subset of the codomain (B).
 
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In even more plain English every time you see a y= and just x or stuff being done to x on the other side it is a function. If it's y^2 It's almoust never a function...unless it also has a module...

basically how to check is as it's been said above: no x-value can have 2 y values. many x-values can have same y-value. for example a vertical line is not a function but a horisontal line is.

you didn't mean "continuous" functions or "1 to 1" functions, you meant just functions right?
 
bomba923 said:
Well, technically, a function maps from the domain to the codomain...

The range of f:A?B is simply [itex]\left\{ {f\left( a \right):a \in A} \right\}[/itex], a subset of the codomain (B).

Yes, but I didn't want to complicate it. Other people have already done that. ;)
 

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