Need Help With Trig Problem: Finding Resultant Vector

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometry problem involving the calculation of a resultant vector, specifically focusing on a vector positioned along the negative x-axis. Participants are exploring how to determine the sine and cosine values for this vector and its components.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the relationship between the vector's position on the x-axis and its components. Questions arise about the necessity of using trigonometric functions to find the components and how to apply angles in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering various perspectives on the use of trigonometry and the implications of the vector's orientation. Some guidance has been provided regarding the angle measurement and the components of the vector, but confusion remains about the application of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific magnitude given by the teacher, which adds to the complexity of the problem. Participants are also grappling with the absence of explicit angles for certain vectors and how that affects their calculations.

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Hey guys!

I feel like I should know how to do this problem from Trig, but I am totally blanking out right now. We have to find the resultant from the vectors that he has given us. One of the vectors is lying on the negative x-axis. How do I find cosine and sine when the line is on the x-axis. Thanks!
 
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sweetdaisy186 said:
Hey guys!

I feel like I should know how to do this problem from Trig, but I am totally blanking out right now. We have to find the resultant from the vectors that he has given us. One of the vectors is lying on the negative x-axis. How do I find cosine and sine when the line is on the x-axis. Thanks!
What do you mean, is the vector parallel to the x-axis? If that is the case, then there is no y-component so the vector has a sin or cosine of zero.
 
the vector is on the x-axis as in horizontal. Does that mean that there is no x component?
 
sweetdaisy186 said:
the vector is on the x-axis as in horizontal. Does that mean that there is no x component?
No; it means that the vector has no y component.
How do I find cosine and sine when the line is on the x-axis.
What are you trying to find the sine and cosine of? If you are using it to find the components of the vector, the angle is measured from the +x axis to the vector counter-clockwise. In this case, since the vector is on the -x axis, the angle is 180 degrees.

Split each vector into its x and y components, and then add the components. Then you don't have to think about trigonometry except in finding the components. In this case, since the vector is lying on the x-axis, you do not need trigonometry to figure out the x and y components.
 
Hmm okay, so if my teacher says that the hypot. is equal 60, that means that I use 180 as my angle because the line is on the negative x-axis? Therefore, I don't need to worry about the y component and then add the other components from the other vectors that I have together. Ah! I see now. So if the line was on the y-axis would the angle be 90 degrees? Thanks!
 
ooo, wait, you said that I don't need to use trig. So I don't have to find cosine and sine then? Hmmm, I think I am confused. How do I use the 60 that my teacher gave me with the problem?

Thanks!
 
I think you could still use sine and cosine. Did your teacher give you the magnitude of anything if he did then you would take the magnitude times cosine of zero for X since your vector lies on the X-axis. If 60 is the vertical direction's (Y) magnitude then you would take that times sine of whatever your angle is. then after you get these numbers you can use pythag. to get the magnitude of the resultant. Next you will need to use inverse tangent to get the angle of the resultant. Hopefully this will help you.
 
I understand the pythag and the inverse tangent part. He didn't give us the angles for the vector that is lying on the negative x-axis. That's where I'm confused. What would that angle be? He said that when we formed the right triangle, the hypothenuse would be 60. I think that is what the magnitude is supposed to be then. Since it's also on an axis I didn't know if I should use cosine or sine with the angle. Thanks everyone! You have all been helpful so far.
 
I think you should use 0 as your angle if that doesn't work then use 180. The reason I say 0 is becasue vectors can be moved around the X/Y coordinate system. You always use cos to find the X component and sin to find the Y component.
 
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*sigh* I think I am doing something wrong because I'm not getting the right answer. Since it's on the negative x-axis, it's going to be negative 60sine/cos 0 right? My prof told me in class today that the x component is not always cos and the y component is sine. He did an example on the board. But either way I tried it I got the wrong answer. I think I'm doing something wrong with the calculator. I was pretty sure that it was 60*cos/sin 0. Something's wrong! LOL
 
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You can always solve it graphically.
 

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