Need Materials for Stability and Control Helicopter

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the request for materials related to the stability and control of helicopters, particularly in the context of a class project. Participants explore various aspects of helicopter stability, including theoretical and practical considerations, while seeking resources and insights to aid in analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses disappointment in finding materials on helicopter stability and control, seeking help from others.
  • Another participant suggests reaching out to a user known for their expertise in helicopters.
  • Multiple participants inquire about the specific types of materials needed, such as control systems or general operational principles.
  • One participant emphasizes that analyzing stability requires defining what stability means in the context of the helicopter's handling and control properties.
  • Another participant proposes that stability is influenced by factors such as the rotor attach point, distance above the center of gravity, rotor blade dihedral, airfoils, mass, stiffness, and gyroscopic forces.
  • There is a discussion about whether stability is qualitative in nature, with some participants suggesting that all mentioned factors affect stability.
  • A participant shares links to resources that may assist in understanding helicopter stability without incurring costs.
  • One participant reflects on their past experiences with model helicopters, noting how rotor airfoil variations can impact behavior, while emphasizing the importance of CG location, rotor dihedral, and rotor mass in stability considerations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of stability or the specific materials needed. There are multiple competing views regarding the factors influencing stability and the definitions of stability itself.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of helicopter stability analysis and the need for clear definitions and parameters. There are unresolved questions regarding the qualitative versus quantitative nature of stability and the specific requirements for the project.

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Need Materials for "Stability and Control Helicopter"

Hi everyboy !

I'm now very disappointed, it's beause I have googled the materials of "stability and control helicopter" and what I got is nothing but disapointment. So, I need your help for the materials. Is there anyone got them ? please share to me. Next week Friday is the deadline .

Thank you
 
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Ask FredGarvin, he seems to know a thing or two about heli's
 
What kind of materials are you looking for? Control systems? Simply how they work? Please explain what you need.

Of course you won't find much on this topic for free. It is a technical subject that has a lot of people in business working on. You'll need to fork over some money for textbooks and technical articles by the sounds of it.
 
FredGarvin said:
What kind of materials are you looking for? Control systems? Simply how they work? Please explain what you need.

Of course you won't find much on this topic for free. It is a technical subject that has a lot of people in business working on. You'll need to fork over some money for textbooks and technical articles by the sounds of it.
what I need is to analyse the stability of my Helicopter, this is my project in the class. I have calculated all parameters of my Helicopter, now just analyse the stability.

Thank you, FredGarvin :wink:
 
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I think stability is only influenced by the rotor attach point and it's distance above the center of gravity. Also the 'dihedral' of the rotor blades, rotor airfoils used, mass, and stiffness. Factor in gyroscopic forces too for single rotor designs.

But I got no way to calculate stability, but isn't 'stability' qualitative in nature?
 
gaming_addict said:
I think stability is only influenced by the rotor attach point and it's distance above the center of gravity. Also the 'dihedral' of the rotor blades, rotor airfoils used, mass, and stiffness. Factor in gyroscopic forces too for single rotor designs.
So...basically you are saying that everything effects stability.


Havythoai,
I will look around to see what I can dig up that will not cost you money. However, it really depends on what you want to do. When you say that you want to "analyze the stability" of your helicopter, you have to be the one to define what that means. What do you want your aircraft's handling and control properties to be? From there you develop your test and analysis to measure and quantify your parameters.

Here are some quick links I dug up:
http://www.comets-uavs.org/papers/CANTOS-WAC-2004.pdf
http://www.aiaa.org/content.cfm?pageid=406&gTable=japaperimport&gID=5039
http://emeraldinsight.com/Insight/viewContentItem.do?contentType=Article&hdAction=lnkhtml&contentId=1598146&history=false

http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/bookdescription.cws_home/699635/description#description
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/mcb/127/2001/00000073/00000002/art00001
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0894649299/?tag=pfamazon01-20
http://www.aerodyn.org/Resources/helicopters.html
 
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FredGarvin said:
So...basically you are saying that everything effects stability.

Hmm, didn't see it that way, but yes, I'm serious with all the things I've mentioned. It was from the experience gained with model helicopter/rotary wing/autogyro glider experiments I did way back.

I never worked with numbers though, but it's interesting how behavior could easily be affected by just varying the rotor airfoil. But to make things simple, CG location(relative to rotor CP), rotor dihedral(during operation, not when sitting on the ground motionless), and rotor mass should be the factors to consider in stability.
 

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