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A participant at a 1987 Spiritual Science Conference in Arkansas reported witnessing a ghostlike form resembling a "grey" alien emerge from a conference leader during a group session involving a Tesla Coil. The experience raised questions about whether it was a hallucination induced by the strong electromagnetic field or a trance state caused by the ritualistic atmosphere. Some contributors suggested that the hallucination might be linked to psychological factors or the influence of the environment rather than the Tesla Coil itself. The leader's subsequent renouncement of his teachings and mysterious death added to the intrigue surrounding the event. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexities of human perception in altered states and the potential for environmental factors to influence experiences.
  • #31
wat i would say is that evil really exis and wat u saw is evil wheater ur sceptic or a rationalist u have to accept this fact. if good exists can't evil exist. i would just like to tell you about something i have heard.

it so happened that one lady who used to contact with spirits through various forms was haunted by an unknow spirit. at her house knifes and sharp objects were thrown at her. she got frightened and decided to do something about it she visited a preacher near by who on hearing this decided to visit her home. the preacher decided to use the same meadium she used to communicate with the spirit. he asked the spirit just one question "who are u?" and the reply which frightened the lady was "devil'. the preacher adviced the lady to destroy all the things she used to communicate. this ended the spirit in her hose and she turned to the bible.

one thing is for sure if u try those spirit communication or any such practices u might end up dead.
 
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  • #32
benzun_1999 said:
one thing is for sure if u try those spirit communication or any such practices u might end up dead.

uhhh, benzun? Everybody winds up dead. Nobody is getting out of here alive. And excuse me, but isn't praying to Jesus the same thing as, spirit communication? If not, why not?
 
  • #33
Don't fear spirits

Read "Spirit Releasement Therapy" by William J. Baldwin. I give a caveat though, I think "spirits" are just a paradigm to make sense of the subconscious. Baldwin does it literally. I think it can be done differently.

I still think a gestalt hypno-regression analysis of the experience would produce unexpected results/insights. I have seen some amazing things done with gestalt dialogue. "Exorcisms" if you want to call it that. You could also call it psycho synthesis.

Kirk
 
  • #34
When I was about 17, I was riding in a car with my cousin and a friend. We were going down a road that the 3 of us had driven down hundreds of times before and thousands of times since. All of a sudden, I just felt something and had what can only be decribed as a vison. I had this classic image of hell. Broken ground everywhere, lakes of fire, giant devil looking down. When I came out of it, my cousin was pulling over and said, did any of you just feel that? really creepy.
 
  • #35
kdinser said:
When I came out of it, my cousin was pulling over and said, did any of you just feel that? really creepy.

I get the impression that your cousin only got a sensation, not the vision. Since the task of driving was at hand that is not surprising.

Shared "hallucinations" are an interesting phenomena. I am more biased toward telepathy as the cause in those instances. Telepathic contact is in the here and now. Much more understandable to me.

I am less inclined to attribute to contact from other realms.
 
  • #36
My cousin said he saw something, but couldn't describe it, our friend in the back seat agreed that he felt something, but didn't mention seeing anything. Since all 3 of us agreed that we had felt something, I'm convinced something out of the ordinary happened. Maybe I just have a more vivid imagination they my cousin and friends. If I had been alone, I doubt I would even remember the event today.

I'm much more inclined to believe that it was some strange shift in Earth's magnetic field, a sudden dip in air pressure, or some other natural phenomenon.
 
  • #37
99.99% of the time an halluciantion
0.01% of the time a neurobiologically induced quantum glitch that is semiotically contextuallized by the human observer
 
  • #38
kdinser said:
If I had been alone, I doubt I would even remember the event today.

I'm much more inclined to believe that it was some strange shift in Earth's magnetic field, a sudden dip in air pressure, or some other natural phenomenon.

Yes, I'd say quite natural but not in the paradigm of most people and none of the above mentioned causalities.

I find it difficult to accept that you wouldn't remember losing here and now and having such a profound vision if you had been alone.
 

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