Need something to reflect replel magnetic ways

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The discussion revolves around the search for materials that can reflect or repel magnetic fields, with a focus on easily moldable substances. Participants explore various materials and their properties in relation to magnetic shielding and field manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster seeks a list of metals or substances that can be easily molded and used to reflect or repel magnetic effects.
  • One participant asserts that there are no insulators for magnetic fields and suggests diverting energy into electrical current as a potential solution.
  • Another participant advises against reposting the question elsewhere, emphasizing the use of high-mu materials like iron or mu-metal for magnetic shielding, noting the need for annealing mu-metal after shaping.
  • A later reply discusses the effectiveness of simple conductors like aluminum and copper in blocking AC magnetic fields at certain frequencies, while stating that only superconductors can block DC magnetic fields, which have limited applications.
  • It is mentioned that soft steel can be a cost-effective alternative to mu-metal depending on the acceptable strength of the remaining magnetic field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the materials suitable for magnetic shielding and the conditions under which they operate, indicating that multiple competing views remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific properties and requirements for materials, such as the need for annealing mu-metal and the frequency considerations for AC magnetic fields, but do not resolve the complexities involved in these processes.

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need something to reflect replel magnetic effects

could someone please give me a list of easy to mould\shape metal\substance that will reflect\repel magnetics. i can remember a metal (think it was metal) that could be heated\melted and worked with quite easily to pour into moulds.

thanks in advance.

Paul
 
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As far as I am aware, there are no insulators for magnetic fields. The energy of the field can be diverted into electrical current, thus acting as a sink. You may want to post on the General Physics forum to develop your solution.
 
No, don't repost this somewhere else -- that is against the PF rules.

To the Original Poster (OP) -- to guide the magnetic field lines (provide shielding for something), you use a high-mu material like iron or mu-metal. Iron or steel sheilds you can make yourself, but mu-metal shields need to be annealed at high temperatures once they are formed. You can't start with a sheet of mu-metal and bend it up into a shield, unless you then anneal it to restore the high-mu properties. More info on mu-metal shielding is at this website:

http://www.magnetic-shield.com/


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Whoops. I'll take a look at those rules, berkeman. Thanks for the headsup.
 
If the magnetic field is AC at a sufficient frequency (not really 60Hz), then a simple conductor (Al, Cu...) will block it.

In DC, only superconductors block magnetic fields, but their constraints are accepted by few applications.

Then indeed, the remaining solution is to offer a short path to the field. But depending on the acceptable strength of the remaining field, expensive mumetal can be replaced by a soft steel.
 

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