Need to Calculate Power and Torque for a Wheelbarrow? Here's How!

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The discussion focuses on calculating the power and torque requirements for a wheelbarrow-like device powered by a 12v battery and motor/gearbox drive. It explores various factors affecting performance, including terrain and load conditions.

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  • One participant inquires about the method to calculate power and torque for a wheelbarrow-like device.
  • Another participant emphasizes that performance requirements vary significantly based on the load and terrain, suggesting that carrying a heavy load uphill demands more power than carrying a light load on flat ground.
  • A detailed formula for calculating power is provided, which includes factors such as rolling resistance, inertia, grade resistance, and mechanical losses, with a note that aerodynamic resistance can be ignored at low speeds.
  • It is proposed that for typical use, the total force required may be around 10% of the weight of the wheelbarrow, but this could increase to three times that amount under severe conditions.
  • Specific calculations are offered for a wheelbarrow weighing 50 lb, estimating power needs between 30 W and 90 W depending on conditions.
  • Another suggestion involves towing the wheelbarrow behind a car to measure the tension in the tow rope, which can then be used to calculate power and torque based on velocity and wheel radius.

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Participants present various methods and considerations for calculating power and torque, but there is no consensus on a single approach or the exact parameters to use, indicating multiple competing views remain.

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The discussion includes assumptions about terrain conditions, load weights, and mechanical losses, which may not apply universally. Specific mathematical steps and definitions are not fully resolved.

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How can I calculate power and torque requirements for a device resembling a wheelbarrow using 12v battery and motor/gearbox drive?
 
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Hello Roger, :welcome:

As you can imagine, the requirements on performance come in: if your wheelbarrow has to carry a ton up a steep hill of loose sand, more is asked of it than if it only has to carry a doll on a smooth marble floor ...
 
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To find the power you need (in watts), you need to multiply the desired speed (in meters per second) and the summation of the forces involved (in Newtons).

The forces involved are:
There is also aerodynamic resistance, but with the low speed of a wheelbarrow, it can be ignored.

Since all of the previous are based on the weight of the wheelbarrow (##mg##), for typical use (avg acceleration of 0.15 g's, smooth & flat terrain, 15% losses) you will probably need a total force representing about 10% of the weight (##0.1mg##). But if you have severe conditions (steep grade and/or rough terrain), it can be easily 3 times as much.

So if your wheelbarrow weights 50 lb (= 222.4 N) and you want to go 3 mph (1.341 m/s), you would need between 30 W (= 0.1 * 222.4 * 1.341) and 90 W (= 0.3 * 222.4 * 1.341) of power.

If you know the power, knowing torque is irrelevant.
 
One option is to tow the Barrow behind a car at a constant speed. While doing that measure the tension in the tow rope. The power in watts equals tension in Newton's times the velocity in meters per second.

You can work out the torque you need from the power, velocity and wheel radius.

Use representative terrain.
 

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