Need verification on a spring force problem regarding a bungee cord.

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The problem involves a bungee jumper of mass 70 kg attached to a bungee cord with a spring constant of 50 N/m and an unstretched length of 9.0 m. The original poster seeks to determine the amplitude of the jumper's oscillation, referencing equations related to spring forces and simple harmonic motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply energy conservation principles to derive the amplitude but expresses uncertainty about the correct use of the simple harmonic motion equation. Other participants question the initial height of the jumper and the assumptions made regarding energy loss and the setup of the potential energy equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup and the assumptions regarding energy conservation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the initial height and potential energy considerations, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the height of the jumper is not provided, leading to various assumptions about the jump's starting point and the energy involved. There is also mention of neglecting air friction and energy loss, as no measures are given for them.

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Homework Statement



A bungee jumper of mass m=70 kg is riding a bungee cord with spring constant k=50 N/m. Its unstretched length is L=9.0 m. What is the amplitude of the jumper's oscillation?

m=70 kg
k=50 N/m
L=9 m

Homework Equations



mg(L+x)=(1/2)kx^2
x(t)=Bcos(omega(t)+alpha)
omega = (k/m)^(1/2)

The Attempt at a Solution



(70)(9.8)(9+x) = (1/2)(50)x^2
25x^2 - 686x - 6174 = 0
x = 34.58

(L+x)/2 = (9+34.58)/2 = 21.79 m

I'm not really sure how to use the equation for simple harmonic motion to determine the amplitude, but shouldn't the amplitude just be (L+x)/2 given that air friction is negligible and total energy is conserved?
 
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What is the initial height of the jumper? I've never jumped myself, so no idea!
If the cord is hanging, unstretched, and the guy takes hold and drops, then the height should be just x, not 9+x. The 9+x means he is taking the end of the cord and climbing a ladder up to where the cord is tied before jumping.

Yes, I think you are supposed to assume no loss of energy since no measure of the loss is given.
 
The height of the jumper isn't given, so when I set up my potential energy equation, I assumed he was just high enough so that he barely touched the ground (the length of the cord plus the max displacement of the cord) so that I didn't have to deal with gravitational potential energy on both sides of the equation. I'm also assuming that he jumps from where the cord is attached so that he'll have fallen 9 m before the cord stretches.
 
Okay - sounds scary!
Your solutions looks great.
 

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