Spring Constant - Bungee Jumping

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a bungee jumping scenario where a person of mass 65 kg descends 30 m below their starting point, with the bungee cord measuring 15 m at the equilibrium point. The objective is to determine the spring constant of the bungee cord.

Discussion Character

  • Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of gravitational potential energy to elastic potential energy and question the relevance of the equilibrium point. There is a focus on the definitions of variables used in the equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out discrepancies in the mass used in calculations and have suggested that the equilibrium point indicates a balance of forces. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the meaning of the variables in the equations.

Contextual Notes

There are concerns about the accuracy of the mass value used in calculations and the interpretation of the displacement in relation to the unstretched length of the bungee cord. Participants are also questioning the appropriateness of equating energy and force in their reasoning.

Speedking96
Messages
104
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A person with a mass of 65 kg goes bungee jumping. At the lowest point, he is located 30 m below his starting point. If, at the equilibrium point, the bungee cord measures 15m, what is its spring constant?

Homework Equations



F = k*x

Ep = (1/2)(k)(x^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



At the bottom, all the gravitational potential energy is converted to elastic potential energy.

mgh = (1/2)(k)(x^2)
(60 kg)(9.8 m/s^2)(30 m) = (1/2)(k)(30^2)

k = 39.2 N/m

I am not sure if this is correct, why did they give the equilibrium information? What does that mean?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
What is x in your expression for the bungee cord's potential energy measured relative to?
 
Just because two relevant equations use the same symbol (x here), doesn't mean they refer to the same quantity. Whenever you quote an equation, you ought to state what each symbol represents for that equation.
 
Speedking96 said:

Homework Statement



A person with a mass of 65 kg goes bungee jumping. At the lowest point, he is located 30 m below his starting point. If, at the equilibrium point, the bungee cord measures 15m, what is its spring constant?

Homework Equations



F = k*x

Ep = (1/2)(k)(x^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



At the bottom, all the gravitational potential energy is converted to elastic potential energy.

mgh = (1/2)(k)(x^2)
(60 kg)(9.8 m/s^2)(30 m) = (1/2)(k)(30^2)

k = 39.2 N/m

I am not sure if this is correct, why did they give the equilibrium information? What does that mean?
First thing, a typo somewhere: in the problem the mass is 65 kg, but you plugged in 60 kg at the end.

Second, to address your question: in this case equilibrium means that the forces are in balance. That should point you to a slightly easier method of solution.,
 
At equilibrium point, the gravitational force is equal to the force in the spring:

mgh = k x
(65 kg)(9.8 m/s^2)(15 m) = (k)(15 m)

k = 637 N/m
 
Speedking96 said:
At the bottom, all the gravitational potential energy is converted to elastic potential energy.

mgh = (1/2)(k)(x^2)
(60 kg)(9.8 m/s^2)(30 m) = (1/2)(k)(30^2)

k = 39.2 N/m

I am not sure if this is correct, why did they give the equilibrium information? What does that mean?

You have used incorrect mass .Mass is 65 kg .While using (1/2)kx2 ,you need to be careful in the sense that 'x' represents the displacement from the unstretched length.

30m is the distance between the topmost and lowest point ,not between the lowest point and the equilibrium position .

Speedking96 said:
At equilibrium point, the gravitational force is equal to the force in the spring:

mgh = k x
(65 kg)(9.8 m/s^2)(15 m) = (k)(15 m)

k = 637 N/m

Wrong.

How can you equate mgh i.e energy with 'kx' i.e force ?
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

Replies
44
Views
7K
Replies
9
Views
4K
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
4K
Replies
29
Views
3K
Replies
26
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
6K