Needing help choosing a university for eng Big decision

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The discussion centers around choosing between two universities for mechanical engineering: Queen's University and the University of Waterloo. Participants explore the implications of each choice, considering factors such as co-op programs, social life, comfort, and future opportunities, particularly regarding graduate school and career aspirations in the engineering field.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant highlights Waterloo's strong reputation for technology-focused engineering and its extensive co-op program, but expresses concerns about the potential loneliness and lack of social stability due to frequent term changes.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of comfort and personal fit in choosing a university, suggesting that being at a school where one feels comfortable may be more beneficial than attending a more prestigious institution.
  • Some participants argue that Queen's University, while not ranked as high as Waterloo, has a solid reputation and offers a supportive environment that may lead to success.
  • There is a discussion about the relevance of school prestige in graduate school admissions, with some suggesting that other factors are more important than the university's name.
  • One participant notes that both universities are reputable and that the choice should align with personal goals and needs rather than prestige alone.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that both universities are reputable and that personal comfort and fit are important factors in the decision. However, there remains disagreement about the significance of prestige in relation to future opportunities, particularly regarding graduate school admissions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention that the perception of "prestige" may vary in the Canadian context, suggesting that it may not hold the same weight as in other countries. There are also unresolved questions about the long-term impact of choosing one university over the other on career prospects.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering engineering programs in Canada, particularly those weighing the importance of university reputation versus personal comfort and fit.

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Needing help choosing a university for eng! Big decision!

Hey guys, long story short I am a 17 year old in southern Ontario kid who has been admitted to every university I applied to mechanical engineering. To make things simple, I have narrowed the my choices to two universities: Queens and Waterloo.

Waterloo, for anyone who is not familiar, is know to be the best university here for undergraduate engineering focused towards technology (Think MIT of Canada). What it is infamous for is its co op program: six four month placements with some of the top 500 companies of the world (RIM, Harvard university, Google, Microsoft, Hatch, most car companies). This is a great advantage none the less, but I have my doubts about the place.

The things that make me feel uneasy about Waterloo is how the mandatory 4 month co op works. Unlike normal universities, EVERY four months you switch from school to work, moving around constantly, with no summer breaks. I've heard this becomes real depressing, since students have no real sense of a 'home' base of friends since they always change during terms as well as can't really participate in things like sports, bands (huge music kid). It has a reputation of being lonely, but none the less the best 'academic' choice that will put me on the top.

Queens is still known as one of the best universities in Canada (often called 'little Oxford'), a great reputation in engineering amongst employers, yet it does not have the 'bleeding edge' waterloo is known to have. Queens is very focused upon teamwork and soft skills in the engineering, having a general first year with no competition towards which profession you choose (if 100% of the students go into ECE, the will accommodate for that, which is nice). They are known to have classes to help students communicate ideas (kind of like drama) to help them to be able to work better as teams, as well as interviews and business presentations, which i find fun. They also do have co op, but a 16 month intern-ship which appeals much more to me. the companies are still great, but not at Waterloo's level (Honda, GM, AMD, Hatch, bombardier, almost every oil company). I enjoy the atmosphere of Queens much more and they are known to "have the most fun" and "be the most satisfied in life after going there". I'm just worried that if that comfort is worth sacrificing for the reputation of being "the best".

So with you guys that have actual experience in the field, what would you recommend I choose? Would it be better going to the university I am more comfortable at that has a great name, or risk it at the university with the best name to have a bit more prestige. My ultimate goal is to work and live in the states and/or design space ships (spacex, virgin galactic), so prestige may come into play (unsure if a masters is needed for that though).

Yet Queens supposedly is LOVED by american universities such as Yale, Berkeley, Stanford, etc. a handful of the bright ones go off there to grad school, which I am considering (like 40%).

Thank you to anyone who gives in some input!
 
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Don't go to a school just because you think grad schools will prefer it over your other choice. It is easy to forget how many factors grad school admissions take into consideration besides the prestige of your school (i.e. you are likely to thrive at a school you are more comfortable at).
 


Oh I agree with the grad schools, its just a point of information I thought was a bit useful just to know.

So I'm more comfortable for sure at queens even though its not number 1. Is that really going to set me back in life? Because its still a great school, its mcgills rival school
 


bassbrotha said:
Oh I agree with the grad schools, its just a point of information I thought was a bit useful just to know.

So I'm more comfortable for sure at queens even though its not number 1. Is that really going to set me back in life? Because its still a great school, its mcgills rival school

Queens has a solid reputation in areas of both science and engineering, so you are in no way being set back by attending there (a number of people I know attended there, and all are quite successful). If in the end, you feel more comfortable attending there, I would say go for it.
 


When looking at schools in Canada "prestige" does not really exist or is meaningless. Either of those schools are fine. Go to the program that fits your needs and goals best. As long as you go to one of the major research schools in Canada and have solid grades you can go anywhere after. I know people from U of A who have gone to Harvard, MIT, Columbia, etc for grad school.
 

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