Needs maths guidance for Physics Bachelor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a participant seeking guidance on preparing for a physics bachelor's program, particularly regarding the necessary mathematics background. The conversation touches on the transition from an interest in cognitive science to physics and the implications of this choice.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • A participant expresses a strong desire to study physics but feels unprepared due to a lack of advanced courses in physics and mathematics.
  • Some participants suggest that waiting a year to prepare is unnecessary, as all students face challenges in their first semester regardless of preparation.
  • Concerns about missing introductory physics courses are raised, but others argue that these topics will be covered in greater depth during the degree.
  • A bridging course offered by the university is mentioned, with some participants indicating it should be sufficient for preparation.
  • One participant recounts advice from a friend discouraging the pursuit of cognitive science in favor of physics, citing the structured nature of physics as beneficial for understanding scientific methodology.
  • Another participant counters this advice, asserting that one should follow their interest in cognitive science, suggesting that the friend's perspective may be misguided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether to pursue cognitive science or physics, with differing opinions on the validity of the friend's advice. Participants generally agree that preparation is important but disagree on the necessity of waiting or the adequacy of prior courses.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence in the bridging course's effectiveness and the importance of prior knowledge in physics and mathematics. The discussion reflects a range of personal experiences and perspectives on academic choices.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a physics degree, those transitioning from other fields of study, and students seeking advice on academic preparation in STEM disciplines may find this discussion relevant.

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Where shall I begin, I am 19 years old now and I have this very strong desire to study physics, ever since I was introduced to Feynman and Carl Sagan and other famous physicists.
After reading a bit more about the field I was amazed by the sheer variety of interesting fields physics had to offer so that I made up my mind: I want to study physics.

So now here is my conundrum: I have only had this insight very recently, so I am thinking that I missed out on taking advanced courses in both physics and maths. While my satisfaction from doing maths has skyrocketed due to my ambition, I am not entirely sure if it will suffice.
I had struggled with physics earlier but when I finally got around to actually do maths properly it was a great deal of fun and I ended up going from an almost F to a B.

This is why I have two choices now, I could either wait a year, and thoroughly go over every math skill that I might need to fresh up on, or, I could also just take a sort of "pre-course" of maths that my university offers (for free!) for people who are in kind of the situation that I am right now, to make sure that they have the maths skills required to study physics.

I actually started wanting to study cognitive science but was persuaded by a friend to study physics instead, because it was a way better introduction to the scientific method and science in general and that I could change into neuroscience later on.

I hope this is somewhat intelligible, since English is not my native language, so I am sorry if I made any grave mistakes and I would appreciate any advice you could give me.PS: I forgot to mention that my university gave out a .pdf with a summary of everything maths related that I should know. http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de/studium/intphysik/img/brueckenkurs.pdf
 
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There is no need to worry.

There is no need to wait a year either.
You will have a bumpy first semester whether you spend one year preparing or not, every student has to go through this experience :biggrin:

Regarding the missing physics courses, its not that important as any school level courses are really introductory, and you will be going through those topics with more depth during your degree.

The pdf document you linked to seems like a compact bridging course, and its very short.
The details are here:
http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de/studium/fsi/erstsemester/index.html

In terms of topics, it should be sufficient.
This bridging course is actually a non-official must for every student.
 
Well that alleviated me from a lot of worries that I had, thank you very much.
 
Cenote said:
I actually started wanting to study cognitive science but was persuaded by a friend to study physics instead, because it was a way better introduction to the scientific method and science in general ...

What were his grounds for suggesting that?
 
Well I can only quote what he wrote to me:

If my suggestion be considered, DO NOT TAKE COGNITIVE science. I know why you want to take it :(. I know people who did the exact same mistake, believe me. They had hard time changing back to physics.

Just go for pure physics and mathematical physics. Read some Neuro books (good ones AND POPULAR SCIENCE). Later you can change to Cognitive science easily.

The reason I am saying this is that Physics is a mature, full science that has a good framework. Pursuing THEORETICAL Physics will open your mind to the methodology of sciences. It will actually broaden your vision for other sciences as well while giving you tremendous flexibility.
 
If you want to study cognitive science, you should study cognitive science. Your friend's advice is misguided.
 

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