Net Force on Sailplane from Earth, Sun & Radiation: Calculate Now

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net force acting on a solar airplane traveling from Earth to Mars, considering the forces from solar radiation, and gravitational forces from the Earth and the Sun. Participants express uncertainty about the problem and the necessary steps to find the net force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the addition of forces and question the direction of the solar radiation force. There is uncertainty about whether to include the gravitational force from Mars and how to determine the overall direction of the net force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted calculations and are exploring the implications of force directions. There is an ongoing dialogue about the assumptions made regarding the forces involved, particularly concerning the gravitational force from Mars and the orientation of the solar radiation force.

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Participants note the absence of specific information regarding the gravitational force from Mars and express confusion about how to represent the direction of the net force without additional data.

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A solar airplane is going from Earth to Mars. Its sail is oriented to give a solar radiation force of 8.00x10^2 N. The gravitational force due to the Sun is 173 N and the gravitational force due to the Earth is 1.00x10^2 N. All forces are in the plane formed by Earth, Sun, and sailplane. The mass of the sailplane is 14,500 kg. What is the net force (magnitude and direction) acting on the sailplane?


We NEVER covered this in class and I am thoroughly stumped. I've been searching everywhere for a potential solution. I REALLY hope someone can help me here. I honestly have no clue. All I can think of is adding all the forces and multiplying it by the mass. Please help!
 
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ally1h said:
All I can think of is adding all the forces and multiplying it by the mass.
Just add up the forces to find the net force. (But don't multiply by the mass. )

Draw yourself a diagram showing all the forces acting on the sailplane. Then add them up. (Are you expected to ignore the gravitational force due to Mars?)
 
Okay. So I have 1073 N. I understand that this is the magnitude. All forces are the same direction, which is why I am adding them up. What I really don't understand is how I find the direction the sailplane is going in. I feel like I'm missing some vital piece of information, like the position of the planets or something, haha
 
The gravitational force due to Mars was not given so I am assuming we're supposed to ignore it.
 
ally1h said:
All forces are the same direction, which is why I am adding them up.
Are you sure about that? :wink:
 
Uh... I thought I was, now I'm not so sure. I was under the impression that the solar radiation due to the sail was in the direction of the Sun, but I suppose it has to be in the opposite direction (towards Mars), to make the sailplane move? If that's true then I subtract that force from the rest?
 
ally1h said:
I was under the impression that the solar radiation due to the sail was in the direction of the Sun, but I suppose it has to be in the opposite direction (towards Mars), to make the sailplane move? If that's true then I subtract that force from the rest?
Right!
 
Awesome! As for direction, should I just say it's along the -x axis? The direction is the 2nd part that I am missing and without angles or anything, I have no idea if the answer is supposed to be along a coordinate line or at an angle or what...

Thanks for your help, by the way.
 
Call the direction towards Mars positive. So the Earth's and sun's gravitational force is pulling you away from Mars, right? The solar wind always radiates outward from the sun, pushing things away from the sun, I'd expect that that's not something you'd be required to know in an introductory physics class. You should be able to figure it out on your own now. It always helps to draw a diagram with all the forces, keep that in mind.
 
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As far as direction, I would specify it as being towards or away from the Sun (or from Mars). (In the absence of data to the contrary, assume that Sun, Earth, sailplane, and Mars are all in a straight line.)
 
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Okay, thank you both for your help! :)
 

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