Net Force Work & Kinetic Energy Increase: 600J & 450J

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving net force, work done, and the increase in kinetic energy of a mass. The original poster presents calculations based on a net force acting on a 4kg mass over a distance of 10m, seeking to determine both the work done and the increase in kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of work done using the formula W = Fd and question the original poster's approach to finding the increase in kinetic energy. There is a focus on the need for final velocity rather than acceleration in the kinetic energy formula. Some suggest using kinematic equations to find the final velocity before applying the kinetic energy formula.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing alternative methods to find the final velocity and questioning the assumptions made by the original poster. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach, but several participants offer guidance on how to correctly calculate the increase in kinetic energy.

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Participants note the lack of information regarding the initial velocity of the mass, which is critical for accurately determining the change in kinetic energy. There is also mention of the conservation of energy principle as a potential method for solving the problem.

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A net force fo 60N accelerates a 4kg mass over a distance of 10m.
a) What is the work done by the net force?
b) What is the increase in kinetic energy of the mass?

This is what i did, i am not too sure of part b

F = 60N
M = 4kg
d = 10m
W = Fd
= 60N*10m
Answer =600J

F = ma
60N = 4kg*a
a = F/m
=60N/4kg
= 15m/s2

KE = ½(mv2)
= ½(4kg*15m/s2)
Answer = 450J
 
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hey, 15m/s/s is the acceleration not the final velocity.
you can get the final velocity by V^2 = U^2 + 2*a*d, you take U=0 and V comes out to be sq. root of 300.
now use KE = (m*v^2)/2 (increase in KE is final ke- initial ke )
and you ll get 600 J.
you could have also done it by a very awesome law(hahaha ) called the law of conservation of energy. all the work you are putting in the mass is going to increase the kinetic energy. duh.. so simple
 
what does work done tell you?

anyway, in part b) you have worked out acceleration from F... but you need velocity for your KE formula (did u see that?)

firstly, you are looking for gain in KE, so at least you would have something that looks like
[tex]\Delta KE = \frac{1}{2}mv_f^2-\frac{1}{2}mv_i^2[/tex]answer is not 450J
 
ank_gl said:
hey, 15m/s/s is the acceleration not the final velocity.
you can get the final velocity by V^2 = U^2 + 2*a*d, you take U=0 and V comes out to be sq. root of 300.
now use KE = (m*v^2)/2 (increase in KE is final ke- initial ke )
and you ll get 600 J.
you could have also done it by a very awesome law(hahaha ) called the law of conservation of energy. all the work you are putting in the mass is going to increase the kinetic energy. duh.. so simple

Aside: you don't need to take U=0.
 
yes u don't need to take U=0 actually, V ll adjust anyways and you ll still get the increase in KE as 600 joule. sorry for taking a special case.
also this is a very basic concept, think a bit and you ll yourself figure out the answer.
 
F = ma
60N = 4kg*a
a = F/m
=60N/4kg
= 15m/s2

KE = ½(mv2)
= ½(4kg*15m/s2)
Answer = 450J

That's the correct calculation of acceleration, but the part you did after that was wrong because you should have used the velocity. Moreover they didn't tell you the initial velocity of this object, so what you really want to get the change in kinetic energy is the change in the velocity squared.

Now consider for constant acceleration:

[tex]v_f^2-v_i^2 = 2a\Delta x[/tex]
 

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