Neutral Pion Mass from Its Decay into Two Photons

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The discussion revolves around determining the mass of a neutral pion (##\pi^0##) from its decay into two photons, focusing on the relationship between the energies of the photons (E1, E2) and the angle (##\theta##) between them. Participants are exploring the application of conservation laws and four-momentum in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of four-momentum conservation and invariant quantities, with some suggesting that the problem can be analyzed in the center of mass frame rather than transforming to the lab frame. There is a debate about the inclusion of angular dependence in the mass expression.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing different approaches and questioning the validity of each other's reasoning. Some have suggested that a theta dependence can arise when considering the relationship between the energies and the angle, while others are still clarifying the implications of four-momentum conservation.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted uncertainty regarding the treatment of the problem in different reference frames and how this affects the final expression for the pion mass. Participants are also grappling with the implications of massless particles in the context of their calculations.

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A ##\pi^0## meson decays predominantly to two photons. Suppose the energies (E1, E2) and angle (##\theta##) between the emitted photons are measured. Find an expression for the ##\pi^0## mass in terms of E1, E2, and ##\theta##.

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In the pion rest frame, by momentum conservation, I know that the two photons are emitted with equal but opposite momenta.

##E'_{\pi} = m_{\pi}##
##E'_{\gamma} = p'_{\gamma}##

##E'_{\gamma 1} = p'_{\gamma 1} = E'_{\gamma 2} = p'_{\gamma 2} = \frac{E'_{\pi}}{2} = \frac{m_{\pi}}{2}##

I know how to transform the photon energies into the lab frame, but I don't understand how to include the angular dependency.

Thanks for any help you can give!
 
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You do not need to transform anything to the lab frame. You just need to apply conservation of 4-momentum and use invariant quantities.
 
Orodruin said:
You do not need to transform anything to the lab frame. You just need to apply conservation of 4-momentum and use invariant quantities.

Photon 1 has four-momentum ##P_{1 \mu} = (E_1, p_x, p_y, p_z)##

Photon 2 has four-momentum ##P_{2 \mu} = (E_2, -p_x, -p_y, -p_z)##

The pion has four-momentum ##P_{\pi^0 \mu} = (m_{\pi}, 0, 0, 0)##

I think that ##E_1 = E_2##

##M^2 = E_{tot}^2 - \vec{P^2}##

##M = 2E_1##

I don't think that can be right, but I don't see any reason for a theta dependance...
 
It is not right. It is not clear to me how you have accounted for 4-momentum conservation.
 
BOAS said:
I don't think that can be right, but I don't see any reason for a theta dependence...
You're not going to get one in the CM frame, but one will appear when you Lorentz transform back to the lab frame. But that's the longer way to solve this problem. Try analyzing the problem in the lab frame.
 
So I've done some research on using four vectors.

##M^2 = (P_{1 \mu} + P_{2 \mu})^2 = P^2_{1 \mu} + P^2_{2 \mu} + 2E_1E_2 - 2\vec{p_1} . \vec{p_2}##

The squared terms are the same as dot products which are zero for a massless particle and I am left with ##M^2 = 2E_1 E_2 - 2 \vec{p_1} . \vec{p_2}##

Since ##E' = p## for the photons I think I can write this as ##M^2 = 2 E_1 E_2 (1 - \cos \theta)##, and by employing a trig identity I can say that ##M = 2 \sqrt{E_1 E_2} \sin \frac{\theta}{2}##

I only used (i think) properties of the four vector but I have found a theta dependence.
 
BOAS said:
So I've done some research on using four vectors.

##M^2 = (P_{1 \mu} + P_{2 \mu})^2 = P^2_{1 \mu} + P^2_{2 \mu} + 2E_1E_2 - 2\vec{p_1} . \vec{p_2}##

The squared terms are the same as dot products which are zero for a massless particle and I am left with ##M^2 = 2E_1 E_2 - 2 \vec{p_1} . \vec{p_2}##

Since ##E' = p## for the photons I think I can write this as ##M^2 = 2 E_1 E_2 (1 - \cos \theta)##, and by employing a trig identity I can say that ##M = 2 \sqrt{E_1 E_2} \sin \frac{\theta}{2}##

I only used (i think) properties of the four vector but I have found a theta dependence.
This looks correct.
 

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