Neutrino Oscillation: Mass Differences

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around neutrino oscillation, specifically focusing on the interpretation of mass differences associated with neutrino flavors, such as the squared-mass difference denoted as Δm²_sol in the context of solar neutrinos. Participants explore the implications of these mass differences in experimental observations and theoretical frameworks.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the probability of a neutrino changing its flavor depends on the difference between the squares of the masses of the neutrino mass eigenstates, specifically mentioning Δm²_12.
  • Another participant agrees that Δm²_sol likely refers to Δm²_12 but cites a textbook definition for Δm²_atm that differs from this interpretation.
  • A participant questions why Δm²_sol specifically refers to Δm²_12, discussing the implications of solar neutrinos produced from the sun's reactions and their energy limitations affecting flavor detection.
  • One participant suggests that by approximating sin(θ₁₃) = 0 and cos(θ₁₃) = 1, one can simplify the analysis to a two-neutrino treatment involving only Δm²_12 and θ₁₂.
  • Another participant confirms that Δm²_sol indeed corresponds to Δm²_12 but raises the question of whether this analysis remains valid given that θ₁₃ is known to be non-zero.
  • A later reply suggests that despite the non-zero value of θ₁₃, the approximation may still be reasonable due to current experimental precision limitations.
  • One participant acknowledges a typo in their previous post, clarifying that they meant to refer to θ₁₃ instead of θ₁₂.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Δm²_sol corresponds to Δm²_12, but there is ongoing debate regarding the implications of approximations in the analysis, particularly in light of the non-zero θ₁₃. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the validity of certain approximations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the current levels of precision in experimental measurements, which may affect the validity of approximations made in the analysis of neutrino oscillations.

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In neutrino oscillation the probability a neutrino changing its flavour depends on the difference between the squares of the masses of the neutrino mass eigenstates. For example, the squared-mass difference between the mass states \nu_{1} and \nu_{2} is denoted \Delta m^2_{12}.

However, I keep reading stuff that refers to the neutrino source used in the experiment when it talks about the mass difference, for example, in solar neutrinos it is \Delta m^2_{sol}.

Am I right in thinking that whenever I see \Delta m^2_{sol} it will always mean \Delta m^2_{12} etc.?
 
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I can't immediately locate a definitive answer, but I think you are right for Δm2sol. But one textbook I have uses the definition

Δm2atm = m32 - 1/2 (m12 + m22)​
 


AdrianTheRock said:
I can't immediately locate a definitive answer, but I think you are right for Δm2sol. But one textbook I have uses the definition

Δm2atm = m32 - 1/2 (m12 + m22)​

I don't suppose you know why it is that \Delta m_{sol}^{2} refers to \Delta m_{12}^{2} and not some other mass^2 difference ?

What I mean is, the sun's reactions produce \nu_{e} and fewer of them arrive at Earth than expected, implying oscillation is happening. However, they only have a few MeV of energy, so when these solar neutrinos reach a detector, they cannot undergo CC interactions as \nu_{\mu} or \nu_{\tau} since they lack the energy required to produce the relevant charged lepton. That means you don't know whether they are turning mostly to \nu_{\mu} or \nu_{\tau}.

Am I right in thinking that, since you can express \nu_{e} as

\rvert \nu_{e} \rangle = cos\theta_{12}cos\theta_{13} \rvert \nu_{1} \rangle + <br /> sin\theta_{12}cos\theta_{13} \rvert \nu_{2} \rangle + <br /> sin\theta_{13}e^{-i\delta} \rvert \nu_{3} \rangle

you can approximate sin\theta_{13} = 0 and cos\theta_{13} = 1 so that you just deal with

\rvert \nu_{e} \rangle = cos\theta_{12} \rvert \nu_{1} \rangle + <br /> sin\theta_{12} \rvert \nu_{2} \rangle

and just neglect any oscillation to \nu_{\tau}, ending up with a two-neutrino treatment where the only parameters you have are \Delta m_{12}^{2}, \theta_{12}?
 


Yes, that's exactly why \Delta m^2_{sol} means \Delta m^2_{12}.

With atmospheric neutrinos you are starting with \nu_\mu, so even with the approximation \theta_{12} = 0 you still have to take account of the \nu_3 state.
 


AdrianTheRock said:
Yes, that's exactly why \Delta m^2_{sol} means \Delta m^2_{12}.

With atmospheric neutrinos you are starting with \nu_\mu, so even with the approximation \theta_{12} = 0 you still have to take account of the \nu_3 state.

is it still a valid analysis given that we now know that theta_{13} is non-zero though?
 


Given the relatively low levels of precision currently available in experimental measurements, I imagine it's still a reasonable approximation.

BTW apologies for the typo in my previous post, I did of course mean \theta_{13}, not \theta_{12}.
 

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