New "Freshman" Physics (BS) Major

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around course selection for a Bachelor of Science in Physics, particularly focusing on the mathematics minor requirements. Participants explore which advanced mathematics courses would be most beneficial, considering the context of a physics education and future academic plans.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Differential Equations is likely a requirement for the physics major and recommend it as a necessary course.
  • Complex Variables is frequently proposed as a valuable course, especially for those considering graduate studies in physics.
  • Others mention Essentials of Statistics as potentially useful for experimental work, despite the original poster's preference to avoid additional statistics courses.
  • There is a discussion about whether the physics class in math methods sufficiently covers Differential Equations, leading to questions about the necessity of taking a separate course on the topic.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the prerequisites for other courses, such as Topology and its relation to analysis.
  • Numerical Analysis is mentioned as another option that could be beneficial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of Differential Equations and Complex Variables, but there is no consensus on whether the physics methods class adequately covers the material or if a separate course is necessary. Multiple competing views exist regarding the selection of the second course.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the physics class in math methods covers Differential Equations extensively, which may influence the decision on whether to take an additional course in that area. There are also discussions about the relevance of statistics and probability in relation to the coursework already taken.

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Hello, PhysicsForums members!

I made a previous thread on this forum entitled "From Music to Math", and I have decided after being in a "Physics Education" track for half a semester, I have decided I am going to pursue a BS in Physics.

I am actually a Sophomore by year; so, since I studied music the previous year with dual-enrollment credits, many of my FKL classes are completed. Therefore, I need to add minors to stay full-time in my coursework. I picked Mathematics and Literary Studies.

A question on the math minor: The preliminary coursework covers the Calculus sequence, along with:
Bridge to Abstract Mathematics, Linear Algebra, and Vector Calculus.

Along with the preliminary courses, I can choose 2 of the following: (I apologize for a somewhat lengthy list)
  • Symbolic Computations in Mathematics
  • Intermediate Analysis I
  • Intermediate Analysis II
  • Complex Variables
  • Numerical Analysis I
  • Numerical Analysis II
  • Theory of Computation
  • Differential Equations
  • Optimization
  • Elementary Abstract Algebra
  • History of Modern Mathematics
  • Modern Geometry
  • Introduction to Topology
  • Essentials of Statistics
  • Introduction to Probability
I already take a Statistical Physics course, so I would rather not take another course in Statistics. What two from this list would you all recommend to pick? These last two courses would be taken in my final year of study.
 
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Your physics major probably requires Differential Equations anyway, so that's one course. I'd suggest Complex Variables for the other one, if you're planning to go on to grad school in physics. When I was in grad school, I found myself wishing I had had a course in complex variables, and I ended up taking one there.
 
As jtbell said, your physics major probably requires differential equations. If it doesn't, take it anyway, that's a no-brainer. For the other one, I would recommend either complex variables or essentials of statistics (something that would come in handy if you're doing experimental work).
 
You probably should take Differential Equations and Complex Variables or Abstract Algebra. Another option is taking numerical analysis.
 
The physics class in math methods already has differential equations covered in length, with direct applications to the field. I'm thinking the reason my program doesn't require a separate class in Diff Eq is due to this class covering the subject directly.

Would it be good to go more in-depth in the subject, or delve into two other classes on the list?
 
TylerCutts said:
The physics class in math methods already has differential equations covered in length, with direct applications to the field. I'm thinking the reason my program doesn't require a separate class in Diff Eq is due to this class covering the subject directly.

Would it be good to go more in-depth in the subject, or delve into two other classes on the list?

Unless you are interested in the subject, it is fine to choose other courses. However, you should check if more advanced physics courses in your interest require the Differential Equations course.
 
TylerCutts said:
The physics class in math methods already has differential equations covered in length, with direct applications to the field. I'm thinking the reason my program doesn't require a separate class in Diff Eq is due to this class covering the subject directly.
What else does the math methods class cover? I'd expect it to cover complex analysis.

Doesn't the topology class have analysis as a pre-requisite?

Statistics and statistical physics are different subjects. Don't rule out statistics just yet. Probability would be useful, but it might be covered in the statistical physics class.

Numerical analysis could be useful.
 

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