News New GOP Poll: Troubling Beliefs of Republicans

[WhoWee]

Let's get some perspective, folks. Sitting presidents get death-threats all the time, and Bush was no different. Anybody that doesn't think Obama isn't getting WAY more than any white president in recent memory is living in La-La land. I do not envy his security details one little bit.

What we have now is bitter and disillusioned right-wingers targeting individual Congressional members for supporting health-care reform. Having lived through the worst of the civil rights movement, the Viet Nam war and domestic protests, etc, I've seen a lot of animosity directed at elected officials, but none with this disproportionate threat level. The GOP has to distance itself from the crazies and the right-wing media that spurs them on or they will be crushed in the upcoming elections. They will carry only the radicals and the moderates and the independents will either stay home or vote for Democrats.

Here we go - "La la land" it is - please support your claim.

 

[turbo]

Here we go - "La la land" it is - please support your claim.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/w...ce_under_strain_as_leaders_face_more_threats/
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/new-report-find-secret-service-overwhelmed-by-increased-threats.php

 

[zomgwtf]

Here we go - "La la land" it is - please support your claim.

I think before you feel the need to attack peoples thoughts in a more or less ad hominem way you should look for suppot for your own claims.

 

[Jack21222]

Okay yup, the Taliban are just freedom fighters trying to bring freedom to their homeland. They are so noble in their cause it makes the US crusaders look like dogs.

All the Taliban wants is the right for their people to live free without persecution and to not face the chance of beheading because you disagree with the leaders decisions.

I'm sorry, you believe the Taliban is operating in Iraq? You think Al Qaeda was operating in Iraq? I can't help you.

My comment about Bush killing hundreds of thousands was referencing the Iraq war. Iraq was one of the most Westernized middle eastern countries. Women had rights! Now, after we destroyed their infrastructure, killed thousands of civilians, and toppled their government, the fringe radical Muslims have taken over, and now women have limited rights, enforced by roving militias.

Read Riverbend's blog for a first-hand account. http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ Start from the beginning.

Yes, people went nuts protesting the Iraq war. That's because it was a war. People went nuts protesting Vietnam, too. These things make sense.

But to completely flip out over an insurance reform bill? Something is off there. For the record, I don't like this health care reform bill. I think insurance companies are the ones that got us into this mess, and to force every American to give them money doesn't sit right with me. But you don't see me flipping out over it. It's just one minor piece of bad legislation on top of a veritable mountain of bad legislation already in existence.

I'm not trying to derail the thread with Iraq war talk. But I seriously hope you people understand the difference between invading a country and reforming health insurance. Those aren't in the same ballpark. Hell, they're even not in the same time zone.

 

[MotoH]

I'm sorry, you believe the Taliban is operating in Iraq? You think Al Qaeda was operating in Iraq? I can't help you.

This statement just made your entire post wrong. Ever hear of the Canal Hotel Bombing? Yeah that was Al Qaeda. Even a simple google search would have shown who we were fighting in Iraq (the Taliban and AQ along with numerous other terrorist organizations).

Wow, just wow.

 

[zomgwtf]

This statement just made your entire post wrong. Ever hear of the Canal Hotel Bombing? Yeah that was Al Qaeda. Even a simple google search would have shown who we were fighting in Iraq (the Taliban and AQ along with numerous other terrorist organizations).

Wow, just wow.

That happened post-invasion and after Baghdad had been crippled... These groups were virtually absent when Iraq was invaded and they certainly weren't as active if they were around. Your post just affirms Jacks position...

This is really getting off topic though so why not just make a new thread?

 

[turbo]

That happened post-invasion and after Baghdad had been crippled... These groups were virtually absent when Iraq was invaded and they certainly weren't as active if they were around. Your post just affirms Jacks position...

This is really getting off topic though so why not just make a new thread?

There are lots of poorly-informed people who actually believe that Saddam would have tolerated the presence of an organization of radical religious terrorists in Iraq. Absolutely clueless. Likely the same crowd that believes that Obama is a Muslim who was born in Kenya and wants to turn the US socialist to ruin our country.

 

[MotoH]

mmk.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

This statement just made your entire post wrong. Ever hear of the Canal Hotel Bombing? Yeah that was Al Qaeda. Even a simple google search would have shown who we were fighting in Iraq (the Taliban and AQ along with numerous other terrorist organizations).

Wow, just wow.

"Al Qaeda in Iraq" came into existence after we invaded. It was not there before we invaded.

 

[WhoWee]

I think before you feel the need to attack peoples thoughts in a more or less ad hominem way you should look for suppot for your own claims.

What is your motivation for attacks on me?

 

[zomgwtf]

What is your motivation for attacks on me?

That was far from attacking you and isn't even comparable to the nature of your posts. I was giving you advice, you want to take that as an attack so be it, that's your problem not mine.

 

[russ_watters]

This thread has devolved into a cesspool of unsubstantiated claims of fact and empty rhetoric. Thread locked.