New Product Idea and Book Giveaway -- Who Wants it? (N95 straw)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of designing a straw with N95 filters for blowing out birthday candles, aimed at reducing germ transfer from the act of blowing. Participants explore the implications of this idea from both a health perspective and an engineering standpoint, considering its feasibility and marketability.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that traditional blowing out of candles is unsanitary, particularly from children, and suggest a straw with N95 filters as a solution.
  • Others raise engineering challenges, questioning why simply inserting N95 filter material into a straw may not be effective.
  • A participant suggests that a conical design for the straw might improve airflow while still providing filtration.
  • Some contributions discuss alternative designs, such as using multiple straws connected to a single filtered end or incorporating a mouth filter.
  • There is curiosity about the actual amount of germs transferred when blowing through a straw, with references to preliminary studies on bioaerosols and bacteria transfer.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of the proposed solutions and the actual health risks involved in blowing out candles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of the proposed straw design or the health implications of blowing out candles. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the engineering challenges and health risks.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their understanding of the engineering aspects and the effectiveness of germ protection methods. There are unresolved questions about the design requirements and the actual health risks associated with blowing out candles.

  • #31
256bits said:
A barrier of some sort?
Think and brainstorm some more of what type of barrier could do this. ie Create another flow of air from your flow.

( No one said "No coaching!" )

Perhaps it has a fully closed end but has a mini fan that when you blow on creates a tiny electric charge that then activates a relay that allows a battery to power a larger fan to blow out the candle
 
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  • #32
berkeman said:
Last couple days to submit your product ideas. There have some very good ideas so far, both from professionals and hobbyist folks.

BTW, I bought a copy of the book that is being given away in this contest, and I received it yesterday. Here is what I posted about it in another thread -- fun book! :smile:
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Enhanced the photos and did some reading already ...
 
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  • #33
Stavros Kiri said:
Enhanced the photos and did some reading already ...
LOL. I guess that's covered under "Fair Use" copyright law... :smile:

Because the PF was down for most of yesterday, I'm extending the deadline for submissions through the end of today. The two winners of the book will be announced tomorrow. Thanks for a fun thread, folks. :biggrin:
 
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  • #34
How about a turbocharger whistle candle blower-outer.
No filter required.

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I found something similar online, though I think it's just half of what's needed.

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ps. I watched a video with Clifford Johnson, the author of the book, and he has a British accent. So I checked out his wiki page, and found that he was born in London, 50 years ago, today.

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Happy Birthday Professor Johnson! :partytime:

pps. Hope you didn't spit on the cake! :oldbiggrin:

ppps. @berkeman , did you do all of this on purpose? Had the forum shut down for a whole day so the contest would land on his birthday? If not, that's quite a coincidence, methinks.
 

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  • #35
I may have started reading the book already but my expectations for the contest aren't too high (I'm just amateur/hobbyist). [Of course ... you never know! ... ]
But in any case it seems that everything I have to propose here comes from the combination of two of my previous posts. I present it here again fully, dividing it now into 3 parts:
A)
Stavros Kiri said:
here's the solution that I propose: filter on the mouth (+ either straw or not) ...
[Simple!]

Edit note: I'm not just saying this as a joke, but the idea comes from surgery [facial] masks etc.. The question is how you get an effective blow and how hard you can blow etc. , but I think that with the right construction of the [mouth] filter / mask it would be possible.
(No need to mention though that I am an amateur/hobbyist in those ...)
B)
Stavros Kiri said:
other idea: multiple straws, all connected to one filtered end etc.
C) In case we want to use the heat from the candle flames as "germ deflector shield":
Stavros Kiri said:
How can you focus "the blow directly on the flame"? (Perhaps having many straws, with a variable space configuration, each one pointing on each candle ? ...)
 
  • #36
Oh my goodness. The professional entry seems to be a lock, but the amateur entries are so close... Ack!
 
  • #37
Stephenk53 said:
Perhaps it has a fully closed end but has a mini fan that when you blow on creates a tiny electric charge that then activates a relay that allows a battery to power a larger fan to blow out the candle
:woot:E-gads. I've been had.
I will have to like that one.:-p
 
  • #38
I'll take a shot at it, first to get more air through the filter you need more surface area, so put the flat filter at an angle to inside of the straw, you can make the angle less steep the longer the straw is :-)
 
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  • #39
256bits said:
E-gads.
Here is another wild idea!: perhaps create a "Candle Blowing Suit", with all the gadgets attached to it ... . You get in ... you blow the candles (for your birthday) - everyone's thus sanitarily safe! (especially if you're sick with the flu or something) - then you come out of the suit and continue with the party! ...
Now that's an idea for a tech product too!
 
  • #40
Okay, contest is closed. Great stuff. The winners will be announced shortly. :biggrin:
 
  • #41
Congratulations to our two book winners! @Greg Bernhardt will be contacting each of you to verify your mailing address. :smile:

Professional -- @BillTre https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...y-who-wants-it-n95-straw.940872/#post-5951181

Hobbyist -- @OmCheeto https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...wants-it-n95-straw.940872/page-2#post-5953691

I like all the creative alternative ideas that folks came up with. My initial idea was to widen the straw for a bit to accommodate a section with the N95 filter in it, and then neck it back down to get the air velocity back up again. But I like the variations with angled filter material, and a longer curvy straw with some absorbent material distributed along the inner wall.

The breath-powered air pumps are pretty clever, and fairly practical.

Thanks for a fun thread. Where's the cake? :biggrin:
 
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  • #42
Yippie!

ps. I did finally finish reading the previous book sent out: "What's it like in Space", just yesterday morning.
10/10 stars!
 
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  • #43
I was thinking of getting this book, so, NICE!
 
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  • #44
Congrats to the winners! It was indeed a fun thread, and thanks to the OP too!
When should we expect to get the product running and be able to buy it? (Funding will be needed, as usual ...)
 
  • #45
Stavros Kiri said:
Here is another wild idea!: perhaps create a "Candle Blowing Suit", with all the gadgets attached to it ... . You get in ... you blow the candles (for your birthday) - everyone's thus sanitarily safe! (especially if you're sick with the flu or something) - then you come out of the suit and continue with the party! ...
Now that's an idea for a tech product too!
Absolutely. An added dress up phase for the celebrators which would be fun.

congrats winners!
 
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