Newtons Method and Finding the 5th root

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The discussion revolves around finding the 5th root of 36 with a specified accuracy of four decimal places, utilizing Newton's method for root-finding.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the formulation of the problem using exponential notation and question the correct setup of the function for Newton's method. There is confusion regarding the representation of the fifth root and the corresponding equation to solve.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts and clarifying the correct approach to formulating the function. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to solve the equation x5 - 36 = 0, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the recursion formula for Newton's method and express uncertainty about their understanding of the problem setup. There is mention of a text that may contain worked examples, indicating reliance on external resources for clarification.

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Homework Statement



Find the 5th root of 36 accurate to four decimal places



Homework Equations



xn+1 = xn - f(xn)/f'(xn)



The Attempt at a Solution



First I attempted to write the fifth root of 36 in exponential form as show below:

Let the 5th root of 36 = x
Let f(x) = x^1/5 - 36
So, f'(x) = 1/5x^-4/5 Is this right so far?
 
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1irishman said:

Homework Statement



Find the 5th root of 36 accurate to four decimal places



Homework Equations



xn+1 = xn - f(xn)/f'(xn)



The Attempt at a Solution



First I attempted to write the fifth root of 36 in exponential form as show below:

Let the 5th root of 36 = x
Let f(x) = x^1/5 - 36
So, f'(x) = 1/5x^-4/5 Is this right so far?

No. You need to solve x5 - 36 = 0.
 
LCKurtz said:
No. You need to solve x5 - 36 = 0.

oh okay, but i am confused because i thought that the fifth root of a number in exponent
form was that number raised to the 1/5. I don't understand how it is x raised to the fifth.
 
LCKurtz said:
No. You need to solve x5 - 36 = 0.

1irishman said:
oh okay, but i am confused because i thought that the fifth root of a number in exponent
form was that number raised to the 1/5. I don't understand how it is x raised to the fifth.

If you solved that equation by radicals wouldn't you get x=36^{\frac 1 5}? And isn't that what you are asked to find? So you want the root of that equation.
 
oh okay. So then it is like below?

f(2) = 2^5 - 36
= - 4
and

f'(2) = 5(2^4)
= 80
 
1irishman said:
oh okay. So then it is like below?

f(2) = 2^5 - 36
= - 4
and

f'(2) = 5(2^4)
= 80

No. Don't you have any worked examples in your text? You mentioned above the recursion formula for xn+1. What do you get for that? You need to use it.
 
it's okay, it says that in the text...got it from here. thx.
 

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