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The discussion centers on calculating the electric potential in the region z > 0 due to a point charge q at (0,0,a) and a charge 4q at (0,-2a,a) using the method of images. The potential is expressed as Vtotal, which combines contributions from both real and image charges, ensuring boundary conditions are met with V=0 at z=0. The complexity of the final expression is acknowledged, but it is confirmed that the detailed answer is necessary for the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement


The z = 0 plane is a grounded conducting surface. A point charge q is at (0,0,a), and charge 4q at (0,-2a,a).
Calculate the potential in the region z > 0.

Homework Equations


V=∑kq/r

The Attempt at a Solution


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Use the method of images.

V1 = kq/r+ + kq/r-
V1=kq(1/sqrt(x^2 +y^2 + (z-a)^2) - 1/sqrt(x^2 +y^2 + (z+a)^2)

V2=4kq/r+ + 4kq/r-
V2 = 4kq(1/sqrt(x^2 + (y+2a)^2 + (z-a)^2) - 1/sqrt(x^2+(y+2a)^2 + (z+a)^2))

Vtotal=ΣV=V1+V2
Vtotal=4kq(1/sqrt(x^2 + (y+2a)^2 + (z-a)^2) - 1/sqrt(x^2+(y+2a)^2 + (z+a)^2)) + kq(1/sqrt(x^2 +y^2 + (z-a)^2) - 1/sqrt(x^2 +y^2 + (z+a)^2)

Is this the correct answer?
 
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BvU said:
PF isn't for stamp-approving homework. The answer to your question can be obtained from your teacher: hand it in.
Or is there another reason you ask: have doubt at some point ? Tell us.

I have doubts as the value for Vtotal seems unnecessarily complex and there is nothing in the final expression that can simplify. The solution appears much different from the usual form we see in an electric potential problem.
 
blizzardof96 said:
unnecessarily complex
I see. Lots of textbook exercises have compact and elegant answers, I agree. Somewhat unrealistic, I must warn you.

In this case you have four terms from the four contributing charges (two real, two image). The mirror image method ensures the physical boundary conditions are met ( V=0 at z=0 and ##\vec E \perp (z=0)## ) and that's about all there is to be said.

At large distances ( ##|\vec r| >> a## ) your configuration should give a dipole field, but here you are clearly expected to give the full detailed answer you worked out.
 
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BvU said:
I see. Lots of textbook exercises have compact and elegant answers, I agree. Somewhat unrealistic, I must warn you.

In this case you have four terms from the four contributing charges (two real, two image). The mirror image method ensures the physical boundary conditions are met ( V=0 at z=0 and ##\vec E \perp (z=0)## ) and that's about all there is to be said.

At large distances ( ##|\vec r| >> a## ) your configuration should give a dipole field, but here you are clearly expected to give the full detailed answer you worked out.

Thank you. As a third year undergrad with less physics knowledge than yourself I appreciate it.
 

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