No Redshift from Distant Galaxies: Implications for Universe

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The discussion revolves around the implications of a hypothetical scenario where no distant galaxies exhibit redshift or blueshift. Participants explore what this would mean for the universe, its structure, and potential effects on Earth, touching on cosmological theories such as the steady state theory and Einstein's cosmological constant.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the implications of a lack of redshift or blueshift in distant galaxies, suggesting it would support the steady state theory and indicate a static, infinite universe.
  • Another participant acknowledges the initial claim but points out that redshifts have been observed and analyzed for over 80 years, questioning the relevance of the hypothetical scenario.
  • A different participant notes that the steady state theory allows for space expansion without an initial singularity, referencing a de-Sitter cosmological model.
  • One participant reiterates the initial question, suggesting that the scenario would support Einstein's original static model involving the cosmological constant, while also expressing skepticism about Einstein's previous views on the matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the implications of the hypothetical scenario, with some supporting the steady state theory and others referencing Einstein's models.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the speculative nature of the scenario, dependence on interpretations of cosmological theories, and the unresolved status of Einstein's cosmological constant in the context of modern cosmology.

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So what if no distant galaxy showed any redshift of blueshift? what would that mean?
What would this imply about the universe? What-if any –effects would this have on the Earth?

I figure this would support the steady state theory and that it was static and infinite.
anything else??
thanks
 
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Your conclusion is probably right, but what is the point. The red shifts of galaxies has been observed and analysed for over 80 years.
 
According to the steady state theory space does also expand, but without an initial singularity (it makes use of a de-Sitter cosmological model).
 
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blumfeld0 said:
So what if no distant galaxy showed any redshift of blueshift? what would that mean?
What would this imply about the universe? What-if any –effects would this have on the Earth?

I figure this would support the steady state theory and that it was static and infinite.
anything else??
thanks
No, it would support Einstein's original 'blunder' with the cosmological constant cancelling gravity (his static model). But we now know that Einstein was wrong on that one and he was (probably) wrong on declaring the cosmological constant a 'blunder' as well!:smile:
 

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