Non-academic mathematics careers

  • Thread starter Thread starter PhysicalAnomaly
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Careers Mathematics
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion explores various non-academic career paths available for individuals with degrees in mathematics, including industrial mathematics, consulting, and roles in finance and research. Participants share insights on job opportunities, competition in the job market, and specific roles that utilize mathematical skills.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention industrial mathematics as a field where pure mathematics is applied to solve practical problems, often in a consulting capacity.
  • Others refer to a variety of roles available for mathematics graduates, including positions as actuaries, cryptographers, statisticians, and financial engineers, as noted by the American Mathematical Society.
  • Concerns are raised about the competitiveness of the job market for mathematics graduates, particularly in industrial, research, finance, and consulting sectors.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the job prospects for mathematics graduates, suggesting that employers may prefer candidates with more directly relevant degrees.
  • One participant shares an example of a physics graduate with a mathematics minor working successfully in operations research, highlighting the applicability of mathematical skills in various industries.
  • There is mention of demand for statisticians in Australia, although uncertainty exists regarding the situation in other countries.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of viewpoints regarding job prospects and competition in non-academic mathematics careers. While some highlight the variety of available roles, others emphasize the challenges and competition faced by mathematics graduates.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of specific statistics comparing the job market outcomes for mathematics graduates versus those from other fields, indicating a gap in available information.

PhysicalAnomaly
Messages
122
Reaction score
0
Hi,

Out of curiosity, what kinds of non-academic mathematics careers are there?

One I've heard of is industrial mathematics - pure maths is applied to a range of puzzles - and the service is sold as a type of consultation. Has anyone else heard about this and does anyone know of companies that do this?

What other options are there for a PhD or BSc in mathematics?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
PhysicalAnomaly said:
Hi,

Out of curiosity, what kinds of non-academic mathematics careers are there?

One I've heard of is industrial mathematics - pure maths is applied to a range of puzzles - and the service is sold as a type of consultation. Has anyone else heard about this and does anyone know of companies that do this?

What other options are there for a PhD or BSc in mathematics?

The American Maths Society (AMS) has a list of profiles of people in many sectors. They range from actuaries to cryptographers/cryptanalysts to statisticians (many different fields) to financial engineers to all kinds of analytical and modelling (math that is not the catwalk type) positions.

Pretty much anything that can be modeled, torn apart, formulated, hypothesized, conjectured, logically decomposed and in any sense mathematically made use of (ie data/information about anything) involves mathematics and there's quite a bit of jobs out there that fit this.
 
The link to the American Mathematical Society is http://www.ams.org You can look up career profiles if you navigate accordingly.
 
Indeed, there is a wide variety, but what are the actual chances of landing such a jobs? Is there a lot of competition for industrial/research/finance/consulting jobs amongst mathematicians? Also, none of the statistics or information on the site actually says how math grads fare against graduates of other fields.
 
PhysicalAnomaly said:
Indeed, there is a wide variety, but what are the actual chances of landing such a jobs? Is there a lot of competition for industrial/research/finance/consulting jobs amongst mathematicians? Also, none of the statistics or information on the site actually says how math grads fare against graduates of other fields.

Its difficult to land a job when you only have a degree related to it. As of now, financial sectors are not going to hire many math grads because they lost faith in them due to the crisis we have now. Also, why choose you over someone who studied 4 years for the job and knew what they wanted from the start?

Simply put, if you want to do mathematics study it. If you have other jobs in mind, get a degree in that.
 
Last edited:
PhysicalAnomaly said:
Indeed, there is a wide variety, but what are the actual chances of landing such a jobs? Is there a lot of competition for industrial/research/finance/consulting jobs amongst mathematicians? Also, none of the statistics or information on the site actually says how math grads fare against graduates of other fields.

Well I don't know about chances being the latest quant but there are quite a few different areas that employ mathematicians based on their educational experiences and where relevant, experience as an RA or as an intern in a company.

I'm not sure about other countries but australia typically always has demand to fill existing spots for qualified statisticians. They come under many labels and generally require very specific or specialized statistical training, but the positions are there. I'm not sure how this is in other countries though.

I suppose if you look hard enough there's jobs everywhere for the right person. I wouldn't just limit the town/city/state you're in simply for work anyways.
 
My good friends brother has a physics degree with a math minor, and he works for a retail chain analyzing the time it should take processes and all that. Efficiency Expert I think is his exact title. Makes $75k a year and gave him a car strait out of his undergrad.
 
That would fit under operations research. I am not sure how big that field is.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
2K
Replies
32
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
Replies
41
Views
9K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K