Non-Differentiable Function proof

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The discussion revolves around proving that a specific function is non-differentiable at zero. The original poster attempts to establish the conditions under which a function fails to be differentiable, particularly focusing on the limits from both sides of zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the limits involved in determining differentiability, with some suggesting the use of l'Hopital's rule and others questioning the appropriateness of certain hints provided. There is also a focus on whether the original poster has learned specific derivatives, such as that of cos(x).

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing hints and suggestions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take next. Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem.

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There are indications that the original poster may be struggling with the application of limits and derivatives, and some participants express concern about the appropriateness of certain suggestions given the context of the problem.

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I am trying to prove that this function is non-differentiable at 0.

In order for a function to be non-differentiable at zero, then the derivative must not exist at zero ##⇔ \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{f(x) - f(0)}{x - 0}## does not exist or ##⇔ \lim_{x \to 0^-} \frac{f(x) - f(0)}{x - 0} \neq \lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{f(x) - f(0)}{x - 0}##

##\lim_{x \to 0^-} \frac{f(x) - f(0)}{x - 0} = \lim_{x \to 0^-} \frac{x + 1 - 1}{x} = 1##

##\lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{\cos x - \cos 0}{x} = \lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{\cos x - 1}{x}## Howver, I'm not sure where to go from here.

Does someone please know?

Thanks!
 
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Hint: ##\cos x \leq 1##.
 
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Both numerator and denominator in your last limit approach zero. Use the l'Hopital rule!

Hill said:
Hint: ##\cos x \leq 1##.
This does not really help finding the correct limit. ##1-x## is also ##\leq 1## for ##x > 0## and gives a different limit than ##\cos(x)##.
 
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Orodruin said:
This does not really help finding the correct limit.
Of course it does not, but the OP does not need it. It only needs to show that this limit is not ##1##.
 
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Hey OP. The proof rests on the fact that if the left sided and right sided limits at ##x=0## aren't equal, then the limit at ##x=0## is undefined. You're almost there, just a bit more work is needed.
 
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Hill said:
Of course it does not, but the OP does not need it. It only needs to show that this limit is not ##1##.
This is true, but not that much easier than to actually compute the limit using the l'Hopital rule.
 
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Orodruin said:
This is true, but not that much easier than to actually compute the limit using the l'Hopital rule.

I find it a bit weird to suggest someone compute the derivative of cos(x) as a substep in their struggle to compute the derivative of cos(x). I don't think the suggestion is really that appropriate - either we know the derivative of cos(x) is sin(x) and we should use that fact directly, or we should do some other analysis on the limit that doesn't involve differentiation. I'll let op opine on whether they have learned the derivative of cos(x) yet
 
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Office_Shredder said:
I find it a bit weird to suggest someone compute the derivative of cos(x) as a substep in their struggle to compute the derivative of cos(x). I don't think the suggestion is really that appropriate - either we know the derivative of cos(x) is sin(x) and we should use that fact directly, or we should do some other analysis on the limit that doesn't involve differentiation. I'll let op opine on whether they have learned the derivative of cos(x) yet
This is true. Brain fart on my part. I guess I just looked at the last limit without reading the rest ...

To compute the derivative I would then apply either the derivative of ##e^{ix}##, which should be known to be ##i e^{ix}## or use the series definition of the cosine from which it should be clear that ##\cos(x) = 1 - x^2/2 + \mathcal O(x^4)##, which is sufficient to get the result.
 
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ChiralSuperfields said:
##\lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{\cos x - 1}{x}## Howver, I'm not sure where to go from here.
Recall that ## 2\sin^2x = 1-\cos 2x ## and consider the behaviour of ##\frac{\sin t}{t}## as ##t\to 0##.
 
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