Non-integer roots of complex numbers

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the roots of complex numbers when the root index is a non-integer. The original poster questions how the number of distinct roots changes when n is non-integer, contrasting it with the case where n is an integer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of non-integer values of n on the number of distinct roots, with some suggesting that rational n leads to a finite number of roots while irrational n results in infinite solutions. Questions arise about the conditions under which roots may repeat.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the relationship between the nature of n and the distinctness of the roots. There is a productive exchange of ideas, particularly around the mathematical reasoning behind the distinctions made.

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Participants are considering the implications of rational versus irrational numbers in the context of root calculations, and there is an underlying assumption that the roots are derived from Euler's formula. The discussion does not resolve the broader implications of these findings but focuses on the mathematical relationships involved.

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Homework Statement



[tex]\sqrt[n]{Z}[/tex] has exactly n distinct value for integer n.
What can you say about non-integer n's ?


Homework Equations


[tex]\sqrt[n]{Z}={|Z|}^{1/n}.(cos((\theta+2k\pi)/n)+isin((\theta+2k\pi)/n)[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I used Euler's formula to see clearly what the roots are if n is integer.
As it is told i find [tex]\sqrt[n]{Z}[/tex] has n roots.
But what if n is non-integer?
I've been told that if n is non-integer there will be infinite solution.
How could it be?
 
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That's not quite true. If you can see what the roots are when n is an integer then you can probably figure out what the roots are when n is rational and there's only a finite number. The case where n is irrational is where you have an infinite number of solutions. Can you show that?
 
If i take n, for instance 2.3 there will be several solution because at a certain k value i will notice that I've found the same root before.
if i take n=2.34 there'll be more solution because cosine or sine of it will have different values from previous ones..and the number of solutions increase with the increase in number of fractions.

If I think an irrotational number is infinitely long there will be infinitely different solutions.
Is that the case or just a piece of nonsense i make up?
 
That's roughly true. Two roots corresponding to the integers k1 and k2 are going to be the same if 2*pi*k1/n and 2*pi*k2/n differ by a multiple of 2*pi. Can you show if n is irrational then that can never happen?
 
c is an integer

[tex](2{\pi}k1 - 2{\pi}k2)/n = c2\pi[/tex]

[tex]k1 - k2 = cn[/tex]

hence k1 and k2 is integer, n must be integer too to have same roots.
that means if n is an irrational number this equation cannot be satisfied namely all roots we can find are different so we can say there are infinitely many distinct roots, is this correct?
 
Exactly right. That would mean (k1-k2)/c=n. The left side is rational, the right side isn't. The roots are all distinct.
 

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