Non-US .edu Sites: Grandfathered In and Still Active

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The discussion centers on the existence of non-US .edu websites, specifically highlighting the University of Toronto's domain, toronto.edu, which is a grandfathered .edu site. While the domain is registered to the University of Toronto, users report accessibility issues with toronto.edu, although subdomains like www.cs.toronto.edu and www.math.toronto.edu are functional. The conversation also touches on the governance of the .edu top-level domain (TLD), which is managed by EDUCAUSE under the U.S. Department of Commerce, and the implications of domain squatting affecting users' ability to register desired domains.

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Does anyone know of any .edu web sites that are not in the United States? According to Wikipedia, .edu has been restricted to the US since 2001, but non-US .edu sites that existed at that time were "grandfathered in" and can continue to maintain their registration.

I don't remember ever seeing such sites, myself.
 
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University of Toronto is toronto.edu.
 
Neither toronto.edu nor utoronto.edu work for me, but utoronto.ca does. Maybe a recent change?
 
Domain Name: TORONTO.EDU

Registrant:
University of Toronto
10 King's College Road, Suite 3302
Toronto, ON M5S 3G4
CANADA

Administrative Contact:
John D. DiMarco
IT Director
University of Toronto Computer Science Dept.
10 King's College Road, #3302
Toronto, ON M5S 3G4
CANADA
(416) 978-5300
jdd@cs.toronto.edu

Technical Contact:
Jaro Pristupa
IT Director
University of Toronto Electrical Engineering Dept.
10 King's College Road
Toronto, ON M5S 3G4
CANADA
(416) 978-3278
whois@ece.toronto.edu

Name Servers:
NS1.TORONTO.EDU 128.100.100.129
NS2.TORONTO.EDU 128.100.72.168
BAY.CS.TORONTO.EDU 128.100.1.1

Domain record activated: 08-May-1986
Domain record last updated: 12-Dec-2012
Domain expires: 31-Jul-2016
 
I never understood why ICAAN put limits on only American universities being allowed to use .edu.

FUN FACT the USA doesn't own the internet :D

They also need to address the issue of domain squatting. I've wanted to register mylastname.ca for 10+ years and its been squatted on a by a professional squatting company. :frown:
 
cpscdave said:
I never understood why ICAAN put limits on only American universities being allowed to use .edu.
ICANN apparently has no authority over .edu. It "belongs" to the U.S. Department of Commerce, which contracts to EDUCAUSE as the sole registrar. See the last entry on http://net.educause.edu/edudomain/show_faq.asp?code=EDUGENERAL.

The USA doesn't own the Internet, but it does "own" the .edu TLD.
 
StevieTNZ said:
Sites such as www.cs.toronto.edu/ (Computer Science faculty) and https://www.math.toronto.edu/ (Maths faculty), which are apart of the University of Toronto, work. But http://www.toronto.edu/ gives
ERROR
The request could not be satisfied.
Bad request.
That's actually a 403 Forbidden. If you can get that far, you're already past domain ownership and name resolution problems.

The web servers for www.toronto.edu are hosted by CloudFront. The DNS servers for toronto.edu and the web server for www.cs.toronto.edu are both hosted in the University of Toronto's own IP address space.

[wget, dig, and ARIN are your friends]
 

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