Non-US .edu Sites: Grandfathered In and Still Active

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In summary, according to Wikipedia, .edu has been restricted to the US since 2001, but non-US .edu sites that existed at that time were "grandfathered in" and can continue to maintain their registration. Non-US universities that are part of the University of Toronto can still use the .edu TLD, but they may run into name resolution problems.
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Does anyone know of any .edu web sites that are not in the United States? According to Wikipedia, .edu has been restricted to the US since 2001, but non-US .edu sites that existed at that time were "grandfathered in" and can continue to maintain their registration.

I don't remember ever seeing such sites, myself.
 
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University of Toronto is toronto.edu.
 
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Neither toronto.edu nor utoronto.edu work for me, but utoronto.ca does. Maybe a recent change?
 
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Domain Name: TORONTO.EDU

Registrant:
University of Toronto
10 King's College Road, Suite 3302
Toronto, ON M5S 3G4
CANADA

Administrative Contact:
John D. DiMarco
IT Director
University of Toronto Computer Science Dept.
10 King's College Road, #3302
Toronto, ON M5S 3G4
CANADA
(416) 978-5300
jdd@cs.toronto.edu

Technical Contact:
Jaro Pristupa
IT Director
University of Toronto Electrical Engineering Dept.
10 King's College Road
Toronto, ON M5S 3G4
CANADA
(416) 978-3278
whois@ece.toronto.edu

Name Servers:
NS1.TORONTO.EDU 128.100.100.129
NS2.TORONTO.EDU 128.100.72.168
BAY.CS.TORONTO.EDU 128.100.1.1

Domain record activated: 08-May-1986
Domain record last updated: 12-Dec-2012
Domain expires: 31-Jul-2016
 
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I never understood why ICAAN put limits on only American universities being allowed to use .edu.

FUN FACT the USA doesn't own the internet :D

They also need to address the issue of domain squatting. I've wanted to register mylastname.ca for 10+ years and its been squatted on a by a professional squatting company. :frown:
 
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cpscdave said:
I never understood why ICAAN put limits on only American universities being allowed to use .edu.
ICANN apparently has no authority over .edu. It "belongs" to the U.S. Department of Commerce, which contracts to EDUCAUSE as the sole registrar. See the last entry on http://net.educause.edu/edudomain/show_faq.asp?code=EDUGENERAL.

The USA doesn't own the Internet, but it does "own" the .edu TLD.
 
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StevieTNZ said:
Sites such as www.cs.toronto.edu/ (Computer Science faculty) and https://www.math.toronto.edu/ (Maths faculty), which are apart of the University of Toronto, work. But http://www.toronto.edu/ gives
ERROR
The request could not be satisfied.
Bad request.
That's actually a 403 Forbidden. If you can get that far, you're already past domain ownership and name resolution problems.

The web servers for www.toronto.edu are hosted by CloudFront. The DNS servers for toronto.edu and the web server for www.cs.toronto.edu are both hosted in the University of Toronto's own IP address space.

[wget, dig, and ARIN are your friends]
 

1. What does it mean for a non-US .edu site to be "grandfathered in"?

Grandfathered in refers to the status of a non-US .edu site that existed before the current regulations were put in place. These sites were granted .edu domains before the criteria for eligibility were changed, and are allowed to continue using their .edu domain even if they do not meet the current requirements.

2. How did these non-US .edu sites become "grandfathered in"?

Before 2001, any institution of higher education worldwide could apply for and receive a .edu domain. However, in 2001, the eligibility criteria for .edu domains were restricted to institutions located in the United States and accredited by an agency recognized by the US Department of Education. Non-US .edu sites that were already in existence before these changes were allowed to keep their .edu domain.

3. Are there any limitations or restrictions for "grandfathered in" non-US .edu sites?

Yes, there are some limitations for these sites. They are not allowed to add new subdomains or create new websites under their .edu domain. Additionally, they are not eligible to receive a .edu domain for any new programs or campuses that they may establish.

4. Can non-US institutions still apply for a .edu domain?

No, non-US institutions are not eligible to apply for a .edu domain under the current criteria. However, they can still use other top-level domains such as .ac or .edu.xx.

5. Will the "grandfathered in" status of non-US .edu sites ever change?

It is unlikely that the "grandfathered in" status of non-US .edu sites will change in the near future. However, it is possible that the eligibility criteria for .edu domains may be revised again in the future, which could potentially affect the status of these sites.

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