Nonlinear integration using integration factors?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a nonlinear differential equation of the form dy/dx + (a+b.y^2)y = Q, which arises from energy balance equations. Participants explore methods for integrating this equation, particularly in the context of using integration factors and Bernoulli's method.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their initial approach using integration factors for linear equations and expresses difficulty when variables are not constant.
  • Another participant suggests that the equation may resemble a Bernoulli type, which typically applies to nonlinear equations.
  • A participant questions the applicability of Bernoulli's method, stating it only works for linear integrations and seeks clarification on this point.
  • One participant proposes a method involving rearranging the equation and integrating, but expresses uncertainty about its correctness.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative approach by changing the variable of integration and refers to an external resource for integration, though they admit to not understanding the solution provided by that resource.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for solving the nonlinear equation, and multiple competing approaches are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the integration techniques and the applicability of Bernoulli's method, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of the methods discussed.

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Hi,

I have some equations I have derived though energy balances and have been using the Integration Factors method to solve equations in the form:

dy/dx + Py = Q

However, my original equations only work if I assume some variables to be constants. Removing this assumption leaves me with an equation of the following form:

dy/dx + (a+b.y^2)y = Q

I have no Idea how to solve this problem. I cannot find a method that works. Does anybody know how to integrate such a problem?

Thanks in advance
 
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This looks like a Bernoulli type possibly.
 
Thanks for the reply matt.

I have looked at the Bernoulli's method but as far as I am aware Bernoulli only works for linear integrations. Please advise me if I'm wrong and if possible, where I can see further information.
 
Kevatron9 said:
Hi,

I have some equations I have derived though energy balances and have been using the Integration Factors method to solve equations in the form:

dy/dx + Py = Q

However, my original equations only work if I assume some variables to be constants. Removing this assumption leaves me with an equation of the following form:

dy/dx + (a+b.y^2)y = Q

I have no Idea how to solve this problem. I cannot find a method that works. Does anybody know how to integrate such a problem?

Thanks in advance
I'm not sure this is right, but it may work!:

dy/dx + (a+b.y^2)y = Q

dy/dx + ay+by^3 = Q

dy/dx = Q - ay - by^3

y = Qx - a\int(ydx-b\int(y^3dx

Now we convert dx into dy and y terms:

dy/dx = Q - ay - by^3

dx = \frac{dy}{Q - ay - by^3}

Bam! Here it is

y = Qx - a\int(\frac{y}{Q - ay - by^3}dy-b\int(\frac{y^3}{Q - ay - by^3}dy
 

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