Normal Force at the bottom of a Ferris Wheel

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The discussion focuses on calculating the normal force experienced by a student riding a Ferris wheel at both the highest and lowest points of the ride. Given the student's weight of 678 N and the normal force at the top being 565 N, the normal force at the bottom can be determined using the equation N = mv²/r + mg. The confusion arises regarding the relationship between the forces at the top and bottom, emphasizing that Nbottom is greater than Ntop due to the additional centripetal force required at the bottom of the wheel.

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Homework Statement



A student of weight 678 N rides a steadily rotating Ferris wheel (the student sits upright). At the highest point, the magnitude of the normal force N on the student from the seat is 565 N. (a) What is the magnitude of N at the lowest point? If the wheel's speed is doubled, what is the magnitude FN at the (b) highest and (c) lowest point?

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So M = 678N, NTop = 565N. Fc = mg - Ntop = 6079.4
So Nbottom = Nbottom - mg = 6079.4 which leads Nbottom to = 12723.8 but this is incorrect. Where am I going wrong?
 
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At the top, normal force, weight, and acceleration all point down:
N + mg = mv^2/r; so N = mv^2/r - mg

At the bottom, normal force and acceleration point up, but weight points down:
N - mg = mv^2/r; so N = mv^2/r + mg
 
I really don't need all that though do I? If I do how am I going to solved for v^2 or r? I only have one equation and two unknowns. At best I'd have Ntop+Nbottom = mv^2/r.
 
AnkhUNC said:
I really don't need all that though do I?
Yep. It's the easy way!
If I do how am I going to solved for v^2 or r?
No need to solve for those.

Examining those expressions for N, how does Nbottom compare to Ntop? (Hint: What's Nbottom - Ntop?)
 

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