Circular Motion: On a Ferris Wheel

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving circular motion, specifically analyzing forces acting on a student riding a Ferris wheel. The problem includes determining the normal force at different positions of the Ferris wheel and how changes in velocity affect this force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational force, normal force, and centripetal acceleration. There are attempts to apply Newton's second law and different sign conventions for forces. Questions arise about the nature of forces at the top and bottom of the Ferris wheel.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the forces involved, with some participants providing insights into the calculations for the normal force. However, there is no explicit consensus on the approach to solving the problem, and confusion persists regarding the relationships between the forces at different points on the Ferris wheel.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There is also a mention of a specific numerical value for the normal force at the top of the Ferris wheel, which may influence the calculations discussed.

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On a Ferris Wheel

A chemistry student with a mass of 75 kg is riding a steadily moving Ferris wheel. When she is at the top of the Ferris wheel, the normal force from the seat on to her body has a magnitude of 550 N.

a) What is the magnitude of the normal force on her body when she is at the bottom of the Ferris wheel's arc?
b.) What would the normal force be on the student at the top of the wheel if the wheel's velocity were doubled? FN =-7.25


F = (mv^2)/R

Well I managed to solve for b by figuring out FN = 4(mg - 550) - 4(mg) = -7.25
But I'm really stuck on a. I don't understand why it just wouldn't be 550.
 
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Use F = ma for the person at the top point. I want to take "down" as positive because I know the centripetal force ma must be down:
mg - 550 = ma (assuming the seat pushes UP on the person).
Here the a is the circular acceleration v^2/r. Another way to look at it is that gravity provides the centripetal force Fc plus 550 extra:
mg = Fc + 550. You may prefer to change all the signs so up is positive - and acceleration is negative.
 
Delphi51 said:
Use F = ma for the person at the top point. I want to take "down" as positive because I know the centripetal force ma must be down:
mg - 550 = ma (assuming the seat pushes UP on the person).
Here the a is the circular acceleration v^2/r. Another way to look at it is that gravity provides the centripetal force Fc plus 550 extra:
mg = Fc + 550. You may prefer to change all the signs so up is positive - and acceleration is negative.

Ok so I'm a little more confused. Are you saying that at the bottom of the wheel, Fc = Normal force?
 
Never mind I figured it out.

Fc = mg - N so Fc = 735.75 -550 = 185
Mv^2 / r = 185 so 185 / M = v^2 / r = 2.47

so again Fc = mg - N so N = 75(2.47) + 735.75 = 921
 

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