Normal force, car on curved road

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a car negotiating a banked curve, with specific parameters including the radius of the curve, the mass of the car, and its speed. The focus is on determining the normal force acting on the car while it travels along the curved path.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the normal force using a free body diagram and questions the validity of the equation mg/cos(theta) for normal force. Other participants discuss the components of the normal force and how they relate to the forces acting on the car.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between the normal force and the weight of the car, with some providing insights into the components of forces involved in a banked curve scenario. There is an ongoing examination of how the situation differs from similar problems, indicating a productive exploration of concepts.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the assumption of a frictionless scenario and the specific conditions of the banked road, which may influence the interpretation of forces acting on the car. There is also a reference to a related example that may provide additional context for understanding the problem.

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Homework Statement



A curve of radius 139 m is banked at an angle of 11°. An 866-kg car negotiates the curve at 89 km/h without skidding. Neglect the effects of air drag and rolling friction. Find the following.
(a) the normal force exerted by the pavement on the tires

Homework Equations



there is no set equation for Normal force

The Attempt at a Solution



I would assume that the normal force would be mgcos(theta) after making a free body diargram because mg is straig down, and the normal is pointed perpindicular to the 11 degree road, so to find fn I would say cos(theta)= fn/mg, and then mgcos(theta)is equalto fn, but the answer is (mg)/cos(theta). This equation would suggest that the normal force is greater than the weight force which makes no sense no me.

Why is mg/cos(theta) correct?
 
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Normal force fn is perpendicular to the banked pavement. Its vertical component balances the weight of the car and horizontal component provides the required centripetal force to keep the car on the track.
 
In the frictionless inclined plane, body slides downward due to the component mg along the inclined plane. i.e. mg*sinθ. And the normal farce is mg*cosθ.
But on the frictionless banked road, the car is not sliding along the slope but moving in a curves path. So the mg*cosθ is not helpful here. The centripetal force is provided by the component of the normal reaction. Other component of normal reaction is balanced by the weight of the car.
 

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