Normal force of a ball at the top and bottom of a circular path

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The problem involves a ball moving in a vertical circular path, with a focus on analyzing the tension in the string at the top and bottom of the circle. The context is rooted in the principles of energy conservation and forces acting on the ball.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy to relate the velocities at different points in the circular motion. There are attempts to derive expressions for tension and acceleration at both the top and bottom of the path. Some participants express confusion regarding the application of energy conservation and the role of tension in their calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some have provided partial insights into the relationships between velocity, tension, and acceleration, but there is no clear consensus or resolution yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of formulas and the treatment of tension in the energy conservation equations. Participants are navigating through assumptions about the system's dynamics and the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


A ball whirls around in a vertical circle at the end of a string. The other end of the string is fixed at the center of the circle. Assuming that the total energy of the ball-Earth system remains constant, show that the tension in the string at the bottom is greater than the tension at the top by six times the weight of the ball.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use W = ∆K = mgy and W₁ + U₁ + W = W₂ + U₂ to solve the problem,
but it did not work out.

I'm pretty lost on this one.

HELP!
 
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Minimum velocity of the ball at the top of the circular motion is given by
m*vi^2/R = mg = T Or vi^2 = Rg.
When it falls to the lowest point, let its velocity be vf and displacement be 2R.
Now apply the conservation of energy to find vf.
What is the tension in the string at the bottom of the circular motion of the ball?
 
Thanks.. but I still don't quite see how to obtain the solution.
 
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vf^2 = vi^2 + 2*g*2R
Bur vi^2 = gR. So
vf^2 = gR + 4gR = 5gR
So the centripetal acceleration is 5g and gravitational acceleration is g.
So the total acceleration at the bottom is = ...
Compare it with that of at the top.
 
rl.bhat said:
vf^2 = vi^2 + 2*g*2R
Bur vi^2 = gR. So
vf^2 = gR + 4gR = 5gR
So the centripetal acceleration is 5g and gravitational acceleration is g.
So the total acceleration at the bottom is = ...
Compare it with that of at the top.

When I use the conservation of energy equation, do I account for T on both sides?
 

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