Circular Motion: Ball on String

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a 1.5 kg ball tied to a 0.75 m long string, which is being whirled in a vertical circle. The original poster seeks to find the tension in the string at both the top and bottom of the circle, but expresses confusion regarding the necessary calculations and the missing velocity information.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants inquire about the speed of the ball and whether any additional information is available. There are suggestions to consider the conditions at the top of the circle, specifically how the tension relates to gravitational force.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the relationship between tension and speed. There is an acknowledgment of the need for more information to proceed with the calculations, and some participants suggest revisiting the problem for clarity.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates that the provided information is all that is available, which raises questions about the completeness of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A 1.5 kg ball is tied to a string that is .75 m long and whirled in a vertical circle.
A) Find the tension in the string at the top of the circle
B) Find the tension in the string at the bottom of the circle

Homework Equations


Fc=mac
ac= v2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


A)
Fnet= Ft + Fg
Fnet = Ft + (1.5)(10)

B)
Fnet = Ft - Fg
Fnet = Ft - (1.5)(10)

As you can see, I did not get very far in my calculations as I am very confused where to go from here. Both equations would require velocity which is not given and I don't know how to find it.
 
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Do you know how fast the ball is moving?
 
kuruman said:
Do you know how fast the ball is moving?
... or any other piece of information?
 
Perhaps the spin rate is 'just enough' to keep it going. That would happen when, at the top, it is just fast enough to overcome gravity acceleration. So what is Ft + Fg at the top of the circle?
 
scottdave said:
So what is Ft + Fg at the top of the circle?
Fg is mg and you know what that is. You are asked to find the tension and that depends on the speed. If the speed is just enough for the ball to go around the circle, what do you think the tension ought to be? I think you should revisit the problem and see if you forgot to post some needed information.
 
kuruman said:
Fg is mg and you know what that is. You are asked to find the tension and that depends on the speed. If the speed is just enough for the ball to go around the circle, what do you think the tension ought to be? I think you should revisit the problem and see if you forgot to post some needed information.
Scottdave is not the originator of the thread.
 
haruspex said:
Scottdave is not the originator of the thread.
Oops, I missed that. Thanks and sorry Scottdave for directing my reply to you instead of the OP.
 
kuruman said:
Oops, I missed that. Thanks and sorry Scottdave for directing my reply to you instead of the OP.
It's an easy mistake when posters don't use the reply or quote buttons, so it is not obvious whom they are addressing (hint @scottdave)
 
kuruman said:
Oops, I missed that. Thanks and sorry Scottdave for directing my reply to you instead of the OP.
Sorry for the late reply. Hate to say it but that was all the information that was given in the problem.
 
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If you have ever swung a mass at the end of a string, you would know that the faster you swing the mass around, the harder the string pulls on your hand. Tension depends on speed. If the speed is not known, the tension cannot be known. You might wish to ask for clarifications from whoever asked you to do this problem.
 

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