Normal Modes & Frequencies for Suspended Spring System: Masses 3m & 2m

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The problem involves a suspended spring system with two masses, 3m and 2m, connected by springs of equal strength. The objective is to determine the normal frequencies and modes of oscillation for this system.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive equations of motion for the system but expresses uncertainty about their setup. Participants suggest clarifying the notation and formatting for better readability.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the clarity of the original post. There is no consensus on the correctness of the equations yet, as the original poster is still seeking assistance with their setup.

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Participants note the difficulty in reading the equations due to formatting issues, which may hinder the discussion of the problem's setup and assumptions.

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Homework Statement



A particle P of mass 3m is suspended from a fixed point O by a massless linear spring with strength alpha. A second particle Q of mass 2m is in turn suspended from P by a second spring of the same strength. The system moves in the vertical straight lie through O . Find the normal frequencies and the form of the normal modes for this system. Write down the form of the general motion.

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The Attempt at a Solution



3mx''= -alpha*x+alpha*(y-x)

2my''= -alpha*(y-x)

dividing out m, my set of equations looks like:

3x''+2xn^2-yn^2=0

2y''+yn^2+xn^2=0
n^2=alpha/m
Let x=A cos(omega*t-gamma) and y= B cos(omega*t-gamma)

x''=-A*omega^2*cos(omega*t-gamma)
y''=-B*omega^2*cos(omega*t-gamma)

plugging x'' and y'' into two equations I get:

3(-A*omega^2)+2(A)n^2-(B)n^2=0
2(-B*omega^2])+Bn^2+ An^2=0

-omega^2*n^2+n^4=0

There is something wrong with how I set up my equations and I cannot spot my errors.
 
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anyone having trouble reading my problem?
 
Yeah I think you should rewrite it in LaTeX, I had a hard time trying to read it. I guess x(double dot) means second derivative of x? You should definitely retype it though, makes it easier for anyone who can help you.
 
JasonJo said:
Yeah I think you should rewrite it in LaTeX, I had a hard time trying to read it. I guess x(double dot) means second derivative of x? You should definitely retype it though, makes it easier for anyone who can help you.

I edited my OP. Are you able to read it any better?
 

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